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Old 02-11-2011 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
For those that are interested, premiering on 16 Feb.

NOVA | Crash of Flight 447

you can watch it today by streaming it from netflix. the show doesn't leave you with a lot of confidence in our "heated" pitot tubes vs. super cooled water droplets!
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The thing I forgot to mention is say you have a 339 aircraft fleet of DAL 88s, 90s, used 90s, Saudi 90s, AAI 717s and Midwest 717s you'd have 65% of the fleet under 14 years old and half of those under 10. All of them acquired for a fraction of their original cost or especially a fraction of a new 737/320z The 88s would have the highest age but even then its an average of 20 years from a family of jets whose first generation proved 40+ was viable without hardly any updates much less the cockpit upgrade the board may approve.
Your post makes way too much sense FTB. We're dealing with Delta, who has managed to dork up just about every aircraft order and fleet plan they've ever had.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Quick question. My wife is on a full fare coach ticket on one of our flights today which shows FC wide open. Is there any legal way to list her for FC? Do you think an agent would do it at the gate if she casually mentions her husband is a pilot?
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Depends on the booking code. If it is a fly confirmed for less or even less ticket, no way. They are not allowed to upgrade those. If it one that she bought on Delta.com, it cannot hurt, but she will be after all of the FF and status upgrades. It is not the way it used to be domestically. International, I would tell ya yes, They upgrade anyone with a black passport when traveling overseas and there are seats avail.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:30 AM
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Thanks, I will tell her to give it a try. Her company bought the ticket at the last minute so will keep my fingers crossed. The flight is wide open with no non-rev or airport stby's listed.We'll see.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrel Man
You can find them in the DC9 fleet page, click on the LMS link. After logged into LMS, go to Catalog/DC9 catalog/DC9 initial qual...there is a tab in the index of that module that allows you to view the exterior preflight slides.
Thanks Barrel Man. I see it's your first post, welcome aboard.
Old 02-11-2011 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
Not condoning this, but I believe you need to add the words "unless they are stapled" after the words "planes come with pilots".

I used to joke that AA would change their paint job from Luxuryliner to Swingliner everytime there was a merger rumor involving AA.

For those that dont get the joke:
Swingline
That's not where I was going with this at all. I was making the argument it didn't make any sense to have LUV divest themselves of the 717 in a large transaction, but in an orderly way that allows them to take delivery of replacement aircraft (if at all).

Essentially, I can only see it go as far as an agreement made by Boeing between one of their customers to sell 717's in exchange for 737's, while they have an agreement in place with another customer to purchase the aircraft on a given schedule, in compensation for whatever (I think we still have many rolling options for the 737).

The AAI pilots have enough to worry about being taken in as commoners in the Royal Family of Love and Wealth, and finding sleeping accomodations, without having to worry about rumors of another merger/spinoff.

And so do we.
Old 02-11-2011 | 05:15 AM
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I'd love to see the 717's at Delta... Might give me a chance to be a Captain before the 20 year point. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this whole rumor started with SWA guys saying "they're going to DAL", referring to Dallas-Love, not Delta.
Old 02-11-2011 | 05:25 AM
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I thought the 717's were MX nightmares...at least the engines? Also the only reason AAI can afford to continue to operate them is AAI bought an engine MX plan that is a flat rate to get all engine services done by the manufacturer. If they had bought this MX plan the 717's would have been parked long ago.
Just second hand info I've heard from AAI peeps.
Old 02-11-2011 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
From my understanding Horizon was being rebranded as a connection carrier, losing their jets and other feed operators would step in with CRJ's. Just seems like a strange move for an airline with a niche market and a desire to stand alone. Just a hunch, but it seems like Alaska wants the RJ's off their books; whether that desire is internal or external remains to be determined.

Alaska would bring a stronger west coast presence, Hawaiian, Mexico and Canadian flying to LUV. At the same time this would pull the rug out from under AA and DAL on the west coast. After LUV targeted DAL in ATL such a move would only make sense, especially when considering the point to point flying Alaska performs.

I'm not so sure if the purchase of Air Tran wasn't simply to take another LCC off the map and better align LUV against the big 3. The next five years should be some of the most interesting in history.

I'm probably way off.
That all sounds reasonable to me. In fact, I traded ALK stock precisely on the notion it would fit very nicely in more than one airline's network. I did the same with AAI, for a smaller amount. I sold the AAI at $7.47, but I also got rid of the ALK at $61.47. My reasoning is that ALK has been talked up significantly, precisely because everyone expects it to be purchased, but "everyone" includes Anderson. I don't know the details of our agreement, and I wouldn't overestimate the obstacle a break-up fee would represent, but it's not as simple as that for LUV or AMR. I don't know if it's smart for LUV to accomplish another merger right on the heels of AAI, and I'm not sure how much cash AMR would burn in a meregr, or if they even have the appetitie for one right now. Let's not forget that, at some point, the DOT/DOJ is going to shut one down. LUV/ALK perhaps doesn't have a lot of overlap, but it seems the DOJ favors airlines with a big presence in ORD, for some strange reason.

I think it's entirely possible ALK remains the gorgeous virgin princess that remains continously engaged to us, accepts presents from other suitors, but noone ever gets to consume a marriage with. With LCC being the remaining large piece, and with speculation Parker might be willing to sell in pieces, I think the industry will find someone willing to put out, with multiple partners.
Old 02-11-2011 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
I thought the 717's were MX nightmares...at least the engines? Also the only reason AAI can afford to continue to operate them is AAI bought an engine MX plan that is a flat rate to get all engine services done by the manufacturer. If they had bought this MX plan the 717's would have been parked long ago.
Just second hand info I've heard from AAI peeps.
Careful now, you shouldn't belittle a RR engine on these forums. But I've heard the engines are not doing well on those things. So where are we, strike 8?
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