Originally Posted by LCS25

I held out higher hopes for you than this. I guess that you are missing your ALPA work.

At least you brought me out of lurk mode. To say that the administration isn't using the policy manuel to their benefit in this instance of this NC debacle is disingenuous at best, an an outright lie all likelihood. Here are my predictions:

You will see two guys initials RH and BF run for negotiating committee. You may remember RH as the one storming out of the room when he was NOT elected chairman of a certain committee, sending the minions (defined as guys on ALPA trip drops with no title in the union) scurrying out of the room to develop a hasty contingency plan when the MEC threw them a curve ball. That left RH jobless, and BF is a rep without a council. I find it fascinating that the predominant argument against the donut crowd is "don't upset the balance so close to section 6", yet that is exactly what we are about to do.

Hey, I'm not saying that there aren't politics out there. Everything is politics. Just don't let the likes of slo, alfa, and PG tell you that this isn't.

Wanna hear more? Let's head to the national level. ALPA, the organization founded on safety, will soon have no national safety chairman position, or security chairman, or jumpseat chairman, or training chairman. These positions and responsibilities will soon be assimilated by much more qualified people: the top national officers mostly the 1st vice president. BTW, isn't it interesting that 3 of the top 6 are Delta guys? It would already be done already, except the EC summarily rejected the idea outright, forcing the national chairman to cancel the vote to change the policy manual in order to regroup, AND THEN SOLICIT INPUT FROM VARIOUS COMMITTEE MEMBERS. Funny how the input wasn't requested prior to trying the forced push. Expect this to be shoved though in the very near future, if it has not already been done. There have already been some resignations from key national positions who want no part of this. Reason cited for the change: streamlining of the process and cost containment. Real reason: sidestep of key individuals who are experts in the process in order to further agendas. Result: tightening of the power group within ALPA, and less checks and balances.

There is more, oh so much more. The irony: I am not a donut person. I am an ALPA person. I am, however, in the process of reevaluation as the developments at national, trickling down to Delta, disgust me. More resignations coming. Keep watching.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

This morning, I received this article in an email. For those of you who haven't seen it and are interested in perspective on conflict of interest at ALPA with regard to scope, here's a link to the article:

Who Has A Say In Our Contract

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Again, I am amazed by the "I am incompetent" argument. It would be better if the MEC would man up and be outspoken on the issue instead of hiding behind questionable legal opinions and blaming others.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I don't know how these two opinions can co-exist in the same head.

Carl

Originally Posted by chuck416

I don't even know how to respond.....I haven't 'turned in my card' to DPA....yet...but am asking myself daily, "why NOT"???

Originally Posted by shiznit

I still don't understand why the DPA crowd doesn't put any real energy into a signed pledge or "contract with Delta Pilots" that they take to each LEC rep, and if they don't get on board with it, start a recall process.

Originally Posted by shiznit

All I can say for DPA thus far: ...............................
DPA proponents better step up to the plate when it comes time for negotiations to ensue.....I still want to see 3000+ members volunteer for the SPC when called upon to send a message to DAL management that we are ready, willing, and that we truly demand restoration.

Originally Posted by Elvis90

For those of you who were in Minneapolis on December 17, 2010, you'll recall that 17 inches of snow in a short period caused the Metrodome (home of the Vikings) roof to collapse:



I was scheduled to fly that day, cancelled, and barely made it back to my crashpad with 4-wheel drive pickups and 18-wheelers stuck all over the sides of the road.

After 7 months the roof is finally replaced:

Metrodome roof up again, nearly ready for Vikings | masslive.com

Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Check,

I think what makes the RAH situation unique is the fact that the NMB declared them a "single carrier" for pilot representation purposes even though they operate on a number of certificates. This is what I have heartburn with.

AA and American Eagle may both be under AMR but they have not been given that "single carrier" designation by the NMB.

Denny

Originally Posted by shiznit

As I've said in other places, you have to prove to me that "DPA supporters" can change the smaller things first,