Originally Posted by acl65pilot

DAL88, I know you have. We have different on the timing and words used. This close to the opening of section six marks a great time to do just that. Doing it two plus years from an opener makes little sense.

Originally Posted by tsquare

Why is it that whenever there is an IROPS situation, that skeds will split, no op, change or otherwise mangle rotations and then deadhead an ATL pilot on the front AND back end to cover those rotations when they could easily be done with an in-base pilot? (Sorry for the run-on) It seems that in the last couple of days, there were (for example) a trip that had one leg from BOS-JFK that was staffed from ATL. Unless something has changed, we have practically hourly service from NY to BOS, and since JFK was the goal of the coverage, skeds just bypassed common sense and went straight to panic mode and covered it our of ATL. It really kind of sucks because with a very cursory look at a few randomly chosen days through August, I found MSP trips, JFK trips and even a SEA Westpac trip that were covered by ATL. Do we have any scheduling oversight here, or is this acceptable? ALPA????

Originally Posted by Check Essential

I don't know, acl. You hang out with too many 40 year olds. Some of "the pilots" might have another view.
This forum is sometimes too much of an echo chamber. We all like underboob and we hate outsourcing.

Just for fun, let me poke the hornet's nest ---


Most won't say it out loud because its not politically correct among the younger First Officers who post on the Internet, but there are more than a few 50 something year old Captains who definitely don't want to spend a bunch of negotiating capital to try and bring 76 seat jets to the mainline.
Hold the line on scope? --> fine. If the young guys insist. But "recapture" the 70 or 76 seaters? --> No way. That ship has sailed. Bringing Compass and that flying back to mainline was a losing proposition that would have kept us tied in knots for years. Moak cut the chain on that stuck anchor just in time.


Maybe those of us already at the mainline are better off in the long run if we facilitate outsourcing of small gauge flying and just allow the company to continue the bidding wars and whipsaw tactics at DCI.
If RJ pilots want to work for minimum wage, doesn't that subsidize our pay rates?
Isn't it better for us if Delta is more profitable?


And we should be careful saying Section 1 is not for sale.
There are a lot of retirement deadzoners who would be willing to entertain offers.

I'll bet the survey results will be different than the APC conventional wisdom.

(now heading for the bunker)

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

Completely disagree with you, ACL. Coming out of bankruptcy and then acting as if our bankruptcy/emergency pay is the new norm and we don't expect much more than that going forward... and then doing that for FOUR YEARS (holy cow!)... well, I see that as a strategic mistake of epic proportions. It completely sends the wrong message to any parties with any possible interest (i.e. management, BOD, Wall Street, etc.) and it has had an extremely negative effect on the expectations of many in our pilot group. How can you possibly see it any other way?

And as far as the "words used." Well how else do you say that we are being compensated at bankruptcy levels, bankruptcy was over a long time ago, and we expect to be restored? I don't see anyway to walk on eggshells and effectively communicate that message. It can be done in a professional, respectful way... and this is exactly what I've been advocating. But it can't be done by tap dancing around it. We're all big boys and girls, and so is management. If this "relationship that Moak built" is so solid, then it will withstand a frank discussion of expectations.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Did they decide on the 66" version? The current size is 61 inches and Boeing was looking hard at 70."

Final 737 re-engine configuration down to four possible fan sizes

The trade off is that large fans make huge thrust when low and slow. At high speed big fans and nacelles are just extra drag. Think A10 and F104 and you get the picture. Here is a toy to play with:

EngineSim 1.7a beta

While reading up on this 737RE, I was a little surprised to read that Slow and Sailing were correct that there was room in the A320NEO schedule to accommodate Delta's needs. Apparently what happened is that Airbus became pretty firm in their prices after the number of orders they received. Boeing on the other hand may have been inspired to offer better discounts.

Overall the 737-900ER may have been the overlooked "ugly duckling" with Swan potential. Part of the reason for the success of the -800 was that its commonality makes it easy to lease and re-lease to another customer. The relative rarity of the -900 will decrease with Delta's order, making the airplane more accepted in the marketplace.

The 737-900ER RE might be just the ticket, with more thrust & better efficiency. If this RE is a nacelle and engine swap, seems like it could be done mid order. The other angle is, with new engines the 737-700 might become the "perfect" 130 to 150 seat jet. We did an order for 200 engines, but since the Leap X is the same manufacturer, an armchair observer would think there is a chance the order could be up-sold.

Originally Posted by rvr350

Funny when I look at my MSPM88 peers' sked, there're still a few that has 0 raw score to this date.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

• AirTran has vastly lower yields and lower costs than SWA. If SWA's cost structure is placed over the routes the 717 operates, the result is about a 15 to 25% operating loss.
• The 717 is too range limited to be the core of an O&D airline.
• The 717 only really makes sense at the fringes of the market as a feeder or supplemental to an operation being driven by low costs elsewhere in the operation.

I'd think a good fit for the 717 is US Air, but their labor situation renders them paralytic.

The other angle might be that management could be turning up the heat in response to the lack of an SLI agreement.

Originally Posted by Delta1067

I have my 1st CQ coming up in a couple of weeks. Could somebody please post what I can expect as far as training/texting/exams/orals/evaluations. Thank you.