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acl65pilot 11-29-2011 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot (Post 1092917)
Have you ever done an ounce of union work? If you did, you'd know the amount of time that both volunteers and elected union officials on the LEC and MEC put in day in and day out. It's literally non-stop and the FPL that is received hardly covers the man hours that are put into running the union.

If it's so cushy, why aren't you beating down the door to get one of those jobs?

I agree with this. The work is insane and the pay never comes close to the work they are doing. That does not mean we should not have more transparency.

Bucking Bar 11-29-2011 06:42 AM

Elvis,

I posted this on the other thread, but it is worth repeating ... in effect someone burned lunch in the Accounting floor's break room. The accountants are running around in a haze, but otherwise things will go along as normal.

US Air has to move out of #4 and might make an offer to the creditors. This is a no lose offer for D. Parker. If he gets something, good for him, if he runs up the cost of American's bankruptcy claims (as he did to Delta) even better for him (and Delta and United and the American pilots). But, I expect the stakeholders to keep American's route network together.

iaflyer 11-29-2011 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1093031)
But, I expect the stakeholders to keep American's route network together.

True - I could envision OneWorld coming to help out, either with money or some sort of higher revenue sharing to help them out.

forgot to bid 11-29-2011 06:47 AM

Boy, add TWA to the mix on the AMR thread and well, you moderators have fun.

shiznit 11-29-2011 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1092639)
Are you kidding? The NC/MEC/LEC, etc will be working ALPA trip drops and keeping their cushy jobs while you and I fly the line day in and day out. How long do you think it's been since any of the MEC administration flew more than a few days a month?

You mean the LEC reps who cannot use any trip drop to hold LEC meetings?

Do you work an average of 21 days a month?

You mean the admin guys who show up every work week, bringing YOU the benefits of Contract Administration to make sure the company isn't screwing you contractually? To staff the NC that spends countless hours negotiating LOA's that improve your QOL outside of Section 6? The R & I to help disability and retiring pilots get the assistance they need to make the best decisions for their family? The Treasurer who manages $30 million each year and has been do such a good job that the Delta MEC has been able to bank $250,000 each month so that we have near $10 mill. in our SMRA?

Do you think these things happen through magic?

Those guys make 82+5, which is 87. Divide that by 5:15 and you get 16.57 days...... They average 21 days of work per month (not including any weekend travel)

I'd say we are getting them at a discount, YMMV.

scambo1 11-29-2011 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1093042)
You mean the LEC reps who cannot use any trip drop to hold LEC meetings?

Do you work an average of 21 days a month?

You mean the admin guys who show up every work week, bringing YOU the benefits of Contract Administration to make sure the company isn't screwing you contractually? To staff the NC that spends countless hours negotiating LOA's that improve your QOL outside of Section 6? The R & I to help disability and retiring pilots get the assistance they need to make the best decisions for their family? The Treasurer who manages $30 million each year and has been do such a good job that the Delta MEC has been able to bank $250,000 each month so that we have near $10 mill. in our SMRA?

Do you think these things happen through magic?

Those guys make 82+5, which is 87. Divide that by 5:15 and you get 16.57 days...... They average 21 days of work per month (not including any weekend travel)

I'd say we are getting them at a discount, YMMV.


Shiz;

If that is the case, FPL conspiracy theorists would probably agree with you...So publish the data. The lack of published data - rather than the 1 inch thick computer printout that noone can understand - feeds the conspiracy fire.

nwa757dtw 11-29-2011 06:57 AM

technical question - is there any way to be notified when new trips come up on the open board? I don't have a fancy phone with apps... I check the old fashioned way on the computer. Thanks.

scambo1 11-29-2011 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by nwa757dtw (Post 1093061)
technical question - is there any way to be notified when new trips come up on the open board? I don't have a fancy phone with apps... I check the old fashioned way on the computer. Thanks.


Man, wouldn't that be great.

Bucking Bar 11-29-2011 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1093038)
True - I could envision OneWorld coming to help out, either with money or some sort of higher revenue sharing to help them out.

Yes, recall that AF/KLM came running to our merger with a 1 billion dollar check. We turned it down. I never heard what they wanted for their billion ... I don't believe "nothing." Also, did they get it for free with the Joint Venture?


Elvis90 11-29-2011 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1093031)
Elvis,

I posted this on the other thread, but it is worth repeating ... in effect someone burned lunch in the Accounting floor's break room. The accountants are running around in a haze, but otherwise things will go along as normal.

US Air has to move out of #4 and might make an offer to the creditors. This is a no lose offer for D. Parker. If he gets something, good for him, if he runs up the cost of American's bankruptcy claims (as he did to Delta) even better for him (and Delta and United and the American pilots). But, I expect the stakeholders to keep American's route network together.

Makes sense...it's win/win for Parker. I commute primarily on AA and AE so I am interested in the outcome!


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