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Denny Crane 12-09-2011 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1099110)
Hey Denny,

Speaking of reserve...........have you cleaned out that spare bedroom yet, in case I have to sit reserve every now and then:eek: I'm sitting at 65% so momma shouldn't have to wash the sheets toooooooo often:D

Ferd

Well.........as long as you like bunkbeds, you're in luck!!:D By the way, in this house, you do your own laundry!!!

I've been sitting at that percentage or worse for years and years. Hasn't been to bad. Can hold Xmas off for sure..................on reserve!

Denny

Carl Spackler 12-09-2011 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1098998)
I absolutely hate them... and so do our customers. Every time I'm commuting on DAL or any other airline, and talk with a passenger, they complain about the non-stop Delta marketing bombardment of commercials for Lincoln, credit cards, sky miles, etc. etc. etc. while they're trying to sleep. I think it's annoying and insulting, and makes us seem like a snake-oil used car salesman. Totally tacky. And the fact you can't turn off the TV entertainment monitor during the commercials, FORCED to watch it and listen at heinously high volume, would really **** me off if I paid $5000 for a ticket...

That's very unfair. Besides, we totally make up for any "snake oil used car salesman" perceptions by trying to grab customers in the concourse to get them to sign up for a credit card.;)

Carl

johnso29 12-09-2011 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1099106)
For you reserve gurus out there. I bid reserve for Dec. Had a carryover trip started as a regular line holder on 30 Nov. and it ended on Dec. 3rd. I've been on long call since then. I go on off days starting sunday. My understanding is that I have to have 24 hours free of duty before I can be sent on a trip because I've either been on a trip or on long call since 30 Nov. I've checked my schedule and they have not given me one.

Now for the question: After today (on long call) am I essentially on off days because that 24 hours would give me saturday off?

Want some perspective before I call scheduling. My son has a wrestling tournament out of town that I want to go to tomorrow. Thanks,

Denny

Denny,

Did your REG trip have a layover that was 24 hours or greater? If it did, then that counts as your 24/7 break. If it did not, I'm surprised they didn't assign it starting immediately after your release. As a matter of fact, you're way past due. You're required to have a 24 hour period free from duty within a 7 consecutive day period. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're on Day 10 of duty.

Also, are you going into Golden Days represented by an *? If so, you are automatically released from SC or LC at NOON local time on your last day.

As best as I can tell, from what you've told me you are off the hook as you are due your 24/7.

Denny Crane 12-09-2011 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1099120)
Denny,

Did your REG trip have a layover that was 24 hours or greater? If it did, then that counts as your 24/7 break. If it did not, I'm surprised they didn't assign it starting immediately after your release. As a matter of fact, you're way past due. You're required to have a 24 hour period free from duty within a 7 consecutive day period. If I'm understanding you correctly, you're on Day 10 of duty.

Also, are you going into Golden Days represented by an *? If so, you are automatically released from SC or LC at NOON local time on your last day.

As best as I can tell, from what you've told me you are off the hook as you are due your 24/7.

No the Reg. trip did not have a 24hr layover. When I got back from the trip scheduling put me on rest for 12 hours (1640 to 0440).

No, I'm not going into golden days. While on my trip I swapped my days off and ended up with a longer period on call in the begining of the month.

You are correct that I am on day 10 of either duty or being on call. I'm going to call scheduling tonight about the 24 hours.

Thanks for the reply.

Denny

johnso29 12-09-2011 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1099126)
No the Reg. trip did not have a 24hr layover. When I got back from the trip scheduling put me on rest for 12 hours (1640 to 0440).

No, I'm not going into golden days. While on my trip I swapped my days off and ended up with a longer period on call in the begining of the month.

You are correct that I am on day 10 of either duty or being on call. I'm going to call scheduling tonight about the 24 hours.

Thanks for the reply.

Denny

Interesting. Well if you wouldn't mind sharing I'd love to hear their explanation. I'm always learning.

Denny Crane 12-09-2011 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1099127)
Interesting. Well if you wouldn't mind sharing I'd love to hear their explanation. I'm always learning.

I had a 23:54 layover from 30 Nov. to 01 Dec. but that doesn't matter now. I'm going to wait until tonight to make sure I get most of tomorrow off!:D That is, if I'm correct.:eek: It wouldn't be the first time I've been "educated" otherwise!!:)

I'll let you know how it goes....

Denny

80ktsClamp 12-09-2011 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1099080)

You should have a read of the popular science article with the voice recorder transcript. Nothing like an article written by a so called expert that actually has no clue what they are talking about. You would think they would consult someone with experience in an Airbus to help out, but that would be asking to much responsibility in journalism.


However- they had that airplane pitched up to 18 degrees at FL370. The senior FO deep stalled the crap out of that airplane and held it in it. All instruments were back to functioning normally the last 15,000 feet or so of their descent. Only when they were descending through 2000 feet at 40 degrees of AOA and below 100 knots of indicated airspeed did the captain recognize that the FO was holding full back stick the whole time. He let go and they started to recover, but it was too late and they pancaked in at almost 10,000 feet per minute.

Ferd149 12-09-2011 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1099118)
Well.........as long as you like bunkbeds, you're in luck!!:D By the way, in this house, you do your own laundry!!!

I've been sitting at that percentage or worse for years and years. Hasn't been to bad. Can hold Xmas off for sure..................on reserve!

Denny

Not a problem..........I'll just take them with me to Narita!!:cool::D

alfaromeo 12-09-2011 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1099138)
Not a problem..........I'll just take them with me to Narita!!:cool::D

........don't forget the curtains.

Carl Spackler 12-09-2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1099134)
You should have a read of the popular science article with the voice recorder transcript. Nothing like an article written by a so called expert that actually has no clue what they are talking about. You would think they would consult someone with experience in an Airbus to help out, but that would be asking to much responsibility in journalism.


However- they had that airplane pitched up to 18 degrees at FL370. The senior FO deep stalled the crap out of that airplane and held it in it. All instruments were back to functioning normally the last 15,000 feet or so of their descent. Only when they were descending through 2000 feet at 40 degrees of AOA and below 100 knots of indicated airspeed did the captain recognize that the FO was holding full back stick the whole time. He let go and they started to recover, but it was too late and they pancaked in at almost 10,000 feet per minute.

Not that it matters when you're talking about numbers this big, but it was the flight path angle that was negative 40 degrees. Add an 18 degree positive pitch attitude to that, and the AOA was 58 degrees. The airframe vibration from that deep of a stall must have been absolutely terrifying for those poor passengers. Unreal. :(

Carl


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