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acl65pilot 11-29-2011 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1093007)
I would love to be a bug on the wall in Mahogany Row right now..


Oh I am sure they have been planning for this event to transpire. I am sure they also have planned for a few events that may transpire after the filing as well.

Herkflyr 11-29-2011 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by nwa757dtw (Post 1093061)
technical question - is there any way to be notified when new trips come up on the open board? I don't have a fancy phone with apps... I check the old fashioned way on the computer. Thanks.

As far as I know there is no way to know when a trip pops up on the pilot to pilot Swapboard.

That said, if you use Flightline Data Services/SABRE, if you sign up for at least their $5/month program, they have access to the Delta computer and scan open time every 5 minutes. You can sign up for "Alert Manager" and have new trips that pop up into open time either emailed or texted to you. You can even specify what kinds of trips within a limited menu: trip length, departure date, etc.

Yes, we should have this offered for free by the company, but at $5 a month I have found it worth it. If even one fairly short-notice nice trip pops up (especially some charter or HMV ferry) then I have found it worth it.

FIIGMO 11-29-2011 07:10 AM

Hmmmmm
 
UPS has started re-calling pilots........

Just asking now.......

But should a buddy of mine that knows this guy who has a cousin that has 4 plus years at DAL go to UPS if called from the pool at 33k first year, bad labor relations and a real penchant for outsourcing just to make 149k second year? Add to that an ANC commute and starting over again. I know this guys wife pretty well and she is a damn good divorce attorney in real life and has already had it with the airlines, and from what I hear wants to work less and is not too found of making another life change that will chase pie in the sky to see it change yet again and delay her chance to stay at home with the kids......

Just wonderin.....:D

Bucking Bar 11-29-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1093080)
Oh I am sure they have been planning for this event to transpire. I am sure they also have planned for a few events that may transpire after the filing as well.

AMR's talking growth.

The job of AMR's competitors will be to make this as expensive as possible for American.

The unfortunate result will be the reduction of capital for ALL airlines as the bondholders get burned by loaning money to American. The banks who talked investors into buying American Airline's debt have nearly no credibility to market this stuff in the future.

I can already hear Richard Anderson saying "we are not American."

johnso29 11-29-2011 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1093091)
UPS has started re-calling pilots........

Just asking now.......

But should a buddy of mine that knows this guy who has a cousin that has 4 plus years at DAL go to UPS if called from the pool at 33k first year, bad labor relations and a real penchant for outsourcing just to make 149k second year? Add to that an ANC commute and starting over again. I know this guys wife pretty well and she is a damn good divorce attorney in real life and has already had it with the airlines, and from what I hear wants to work less and is not too found of making another life change that will chase pie in the sky to see it change yet again and delay her chance to stay at home with the kids......

Just wonderin.....

I think you should tell your 'buddy' ;) that if he's married to a damn good divorce attorney he should do exactly what she says, because if he doesn't make momma happy it ain't gonna matter how much he's making. He won't see any of it! :D Then again, if you've been here 4 years you should definitely go. You're senior to me. :D

A happy momma makes a happy home. Just sayin.

Bucking Bar 11-29-2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1093091)
UPS has started re-calling pilots........

Just asking now.......

But should a buddy of mine that knows this guy who has a cousin that has 4 plus years at DAL go to UPS if called from the pool at 33k first year, bad labor relations and a real penchant for outsourcing just to make 149k second year? Add to that an ANC commute and starting over again. I know this guys wife pretty well and she is a damn good divorce attorney in real life and has already had it with the airlines, and from what I hear wants to work less and is not too found of making another life change that will chase pie in the sky to see it change yet again and delay her chance to stay at home with the kids......

Just wonderin.....:D

If you are junior at Delta, you have to carefully evaluate ALL options. We are shrinking, we have no clear plan going forward other than continued shrinkage to try to drive up revenues for the short period of time until our service reductions are replaced by more efficient competitors. If Delta grows, it will be an acquisition wich most likely involves pilots which will remain long after their flying has been "synergized."

Delta is willing to allow pilots to leave with seniority via long term leave. I'd think one option is work somewhere else for a year then further evaluate options.

IMHO, reading the tea leaves, a bankruptcy filing by Delta would not surprise me over the medium term. I'd need to see more about the terms of our debt ... just saying that I would not be surprised.

Imapilot2 11-29-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1093098)
I think you should tell your 'buddy' ;) that if he's married to a damn good divorce attorney he should do exactly what she says, because if he doesn't make momma happy it ain't gonna matter how much he's making. He won't see any of it! :D Than again, if you've been here 4 years you should definitely go. You're senior to me. :D

A happy momma makes a happy home. Just sayin.

yup, run as fast as u can for ups!;-)

Imapilot2 11-29-2011 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1093109)
If you are junior at Delta, you have to carefully evaluate ALL options. We are shrinking, we have no clear plan going forward other than continued shrinkage to try to drive up revenues for the short period of time until our service reductions are replaced by more efficient competitors. If Delta grows, it will be an acquisition wich most likely involves pilots which will remain long after their flying has been "synergized."

Delta is willing to allow pilots to leave with seniority via long term leave. I'd think one option is work somewhere else for a year then further evaluate options.

IMHO, reading the tea leaves, a bankruptcy filing by Delta would not surprise me over the medium term. I'd need to see more about the terms of our debt ... just saying that I would not be surprised.

a bk filing by delta? u r the only one this wouldn't surprise

johnso29 11-29-2011 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1093109)
If you are junior at Delta, you have to carefully evaluate ALL options. We are shrinking, we have no clear plan going forward other than continued shrinkage to try to drive up revenues for the short period of time until our service reductions are replaced by more efficient competitors. If Delta grows, it will be an acquisition wich most likely involves pilots which will remain long after their flying has been "synergized."

Delta is willing to allow pilots to leave with seniority via long term leave. I'd think one option is work somewhere else for a year then further evaluate options.

IMHO, reading the tea leaves, a bankruptcy filing by Delta would not surprise me over the medium term. I'd need to see more about the terms of our debt ... just saying that I would not be surprised.


Are they really? Have you looked into this? They won't even offer SILs righ now. WRT your medium term BK prediction, that's way too far out for anyone to predict. Things change too fast in this biz. JMO which isn't worth much. :D

sevenfiveseven 11-29-2011 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1093091)
UPS has started re-calling pilots........

Just asking now.......
... I know this guys wife pretty well and she is a damn good divorce attorney in real life and has already had it with the airlines, and from what I hear wants to work less and is not too found of making another life change that will chase pie in the sky to see it change yet again and delay her chance to stay at home with the kids......

Just wonderin.....:D

Is not that your (his) answer already? :)


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