Timbo

According to one of the ATL Capt. LEC reps, there is a fix 'in the works'. He didn't say exactly what it was, or when it would take effect.

Sink r8

It's cool. I guess the problem here is that pilots probably overwhelmingly say in their surveys that they want to retain the swap board. So the union has to be careful about to approach this: do they simply get us wha we want, or what we should want.

In this case, I think I agree with what you wrote. I think there are some issues where pilots vote in the original survey that deserve a debate. If the MEC Chairman was to put out a couple of topics that he thinks we're getting wrong, make a case, then resubmit a survey on those points to see if we agree, I think it would be time well spent. I think I'd like to see a couple more feedback loops in the survey process.

Would you be agreeable to something like that, or would you howl that your expectations are being managed?

Timbo

Manning! Ha Ha Ha! You beeeg funny boy! You so beeg!

I put it in my survey, but not sure how many others did. I guess we'll know when we see the opener.

Sink r8

There is no reason we couldn't have a single source for all open time, into which we could trade trips, as long as we respected max pick-up, if the Reserves Required were not manipulated as they once were. In that case, you could do everything you describe above. Throw in a decent interface, and you could pull trips from PBS that met certain parameters, and show what trips you might be willing to accept instead, and the pot could probably be used as giant, tarnsparent, trip exchange.

The reason guys want the sawp board, is because they didn't have a good means to effect an honest transaction, and can't trust Swap with the Pot (for good cause). If guys had an easy way to input trips they might be willing to give up, and what they would give them up for, it could match the guy looking to be on the other side of the trade. You wouldn't even have to look up the guy you need to trade with, or waste your time scanning through boards, only to find someone willing to give up a GEO for an ATH.

The current system for assigning/trading open time is archaic, hard to use, and detrimental to the pilot group. It needs to be gutted, then torched, the ashes need to be burried, and the ground it's in needs to be launched out of earth orbit.

More Bacon

I generally agree with the concept of providing a feedback loop for our negotiators, and would be fine with some give-and-take to help them identify "what we think we want" and "what we really want."

However, that would have been something to lead-turn a year ago, not a few weeks prior to exchanging openers.

My perception is that our Section 6 preparation, at least from a communications standpoint, has been abysmal.

Elvis90

Well, 4% of 12,000 pilots is 480...I'm part of that. My understanding, however, is that a furlough of less than 2 years is not cost effective. On December 21, 2013, the new rest rules are in effect, and likewise significant retirements begin. If I were a strategic planner, furloughs would not make sense given those circumstances, but it does help dampen contract expectations.

forgot to bid

I don't know how selling your vacation started, but DALPA sure as heck doesn't allow it nor will they entertain it. Seemed to me, and correct me if I'm wrong, that DALPA is against it and what they're doing about it might be an LOA or C2012 thing. I don't know. I hope.

Now, to restate this for Dr. Buzz and my G's in LAX:


With so much drama in the L-A-X
It's kinda hard bein B-U-double-Z
But I somehow, some way
Keep coming up with funky *** ***** about Dems like every single day
May I, kick a little something for the G's (yeah)
And, make a few ends as I breeze through,
It's two in the mornin in the A-T-L but out here my party's still jumpin
Cause my momma ain't home
I got my b****** being displaced from planes wit livin rooms
And they ain't leavin because they got sometin better in da mornin
We got a pocket full of shizzles parkin us all away
They got them some fix to getin them paid
Now this types of **** happens every other day
When you got trip parkin hoes that say fool I gotta get mine
So lets turn off the lights and close the swap board
But (but what) we don't love them trip parkin hoes,
So we gonna smoke a ounce to this
We need to get the D-A to the L-P-A mackin this **** down
G's up, trip parkin hoes down, while you ************* bounce to this...

Makes sense to me.

forgot to bid

If we went back to the bow wave, wouldn't we be understaffed?

If so, we'd all gain seniority, right? What's not to love.

Thrust Normal

I would love to have the bow wave put back. I'd much rather be making the same money flying less in a senior category then flying more in a junior category.

nwaf16dude

If you want to see something that will reduce reserve required numbers, go take a look at the last 4 days of trip coverage for ATL7ERB. Averaging about 80% white slips.