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johnso29 05-08-2012 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1183956)
Why are things like short call even bring negotiated especially by giving them more? The new rest rules takes care of the 24 hr problem, and now we get RAW credit for them. Besides that there is nothing that has been negotiated that is better than what we have now or will be changed by the new rules.

I believe many people put in their survey that they wanted to see a higher guarantee for SC. It's only one more SC, and I'm thinking it will be optional.

filejw 05-08-2012 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1184058)
Just so I understand -
You admire people who are ill-informed underpaid conformists because they have found a way to avoid thinking?

Or these people have so much going on in life they just drop DAL from their thought process when they get home. I can remember times like that. Family and a business ( bar ) that employed 30 people is all it took.

SFWB 05-08-2012 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1183717)
If you don't like it you can apply elsewhere:D

CapnCrunch---Hilarious!!!

TeddyKGB 05-08-2012 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1184087)
I believe many people put in their survey that they wanted to see a higher guarantee for SC. It's only one more SC, and I'm thinking it will be optional.

I'm a reserve B. I have never seen more than 3 SC in a month. Rarely do I see more than 4 on the reserve available list near the end of the month. If they want to up it to 7 I'm fine with that as long as the reserve guarantee and days off go up like it looks like it's going to do. Tired of 70 hours a month. I always have a wide open GS in and have only gotten 2. Reserve is easy enough as it is so if they want more efficiency out of me than that's fine as long as they show me the $$$$

Whidbey 05-08-2012 05:44 AM

Some guys on the DALPA forum seem convinced that the updated sick leave is 240 hours per year, resetting annually with no rolling 3 year total. Can that be right? I'm thinking no, but more importantly, can anyone explain what the wording actually means?

cni187 05-08-2012 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1184099)
I'm a reserve B. I have never seen more than 3 SC in a month. Rarely do I see more than 4 on the reserve available list near the end of the month. If they want to up it to 7 I'm fine with that as long as the reserve guarantee and days off go up like it looks like it's going to do. Tired of 70 hours a month. I always have a wide open GS in and have only gotten 2. Reserve is easy enough as it is so if they want more efficiency out of me than that's fine as long as they show me the $$$$

Are you on an overstaffed category like in NY? Reserve in ATL M88B was like that as well. You probably wouldn't be saying these things if you were on an understaffed category doing the max amount of short calls.

DAL 88 Driver 05-08-2012 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1184079)
I got it, but for the reserve changes to be staffing neutral I would expect a 6 hr ADC, Reserve Rotation guarantee once assigned a trip, and possible a 3:1 on the trip rig. Those nuggets would make this staffing positive, but still take away a lot of the potential for GS.

Because of these changes and the taking away for a lot of GS, I wonder if there is going to be a time and a half over 80/85 in this. There has got to be a quid for that.

That said, I will try to refrain from projecting too much, just trying to make the math add up to positive gain. The side that we have seen could be a way to construct more pay per pilot without the appearance of such.

Sorry for the confusion, ACL. The only part of my reply that was actually to you was the part that said, "Thanks. Me too." The rest was intended for tsquare because of his reply that used hoserpilot's drum solo comment and tried to turn it into a derogatory comment (which I don't believe is what hoser was saying). Again, sorry for the confusion... I should have put that in a separate post.

Columbia 05-08-2012 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1184058)
Just so I understand -
You admire people who are ill-informed underpaid conformists because they have found a way to avoid thinking?

Agreed. It seems he/she admires those who do their jobs, mind their own business, and remain uninformed about anything going on at work.

Justdoinmyjob 05-08-2012 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1184046)
Reminds me of something my last A said. He mentioned that back after 9/11, I want to say 2003 or 2004 or so, he was talking to another pilot and said "with guys on furlough..." and that pilot interupted and said "we have guys on furlough??"

yikes.

i think his response was ###?

So it's not new, but still amazing.


While furloughed, (in 2004,) I was actually standing in the jetway talking with the FO when the captain walked up and asked who I flew with. When I told him I was furloughed Delta, he didn't believe me, claimed all the furloughees had been recalled. The FMII guys had, but not the FMI guys. When I showed him the furlough ID they had given us, he claimed it looked fake and had never seen anything like it. Refused to believe anyone was still out involuntarily and stormed off. Talked with the FO after the flight and he said the captain ranted about DCI pilots pretending to be mainline the whole flight and tried to convince the FO there were no furloughees.

Elvis90 05-08-2012 06:11 AM



Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1184078)
No TA has been reached as of 10 minutes ago.


That's the info I have as well. Just trying to squash a rumor. With it not being true, I think someone must have gotten what the CP said wrong. He does not give out false rumors.
Thanks for checking. Sorry if I spread bad poop.


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