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Old 09-21-2014, 05:15 PM
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I feel like I'm competitive, but I also know that the pool of well qualified applicants is very large. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is; does anyone know if there is a schedule for when interview invites go out? Like, should I check my inbox on the second Thursday of the month? Or, do they go out at seemingly random times and any day could be the day, so keep checking your inbox furiously like some kind of gmail crackhead? Any thoughts?
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Old 09-21-2014, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AeroCrewSolut View Post
What was your GPA in college? How long did it take you to complete college? Where did you go to college? Where did you receive your flight training? The answers to these questions are scored.
GPA 3.7 - Honor graduate

Took six years - was balancing flight training, as well as working full-time during the process. I would hope recruiting would take this into consideration when reviewing my app. My work history shows all this. Definitely didn't party my way through college.

A university credited college - I have a B.S. in computer science.

Did all my flight training in a FAR 141 training school graduated from there with a 3.87 GPA.

I understand it's all scored. There are so many other items though to look at when trying to find the right applicants. I don't envy anyone in pilot recruitment. I know they have a tough job in what they do. I just wish there was some credit for those who have done everything they possibly can to just get an interview.

Look at f10a. Seems they would take his credentials into consideration as well as his longevity of applying for so long.

Again, all this is just to get the invite and not the job. I realize that is completely up to us to earn it. I just want a chance to sit in front of the interview panel.

This all reminds me of fighting for upt slots. At least in that environment I had a chance to interview with select units.
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Old 09-21-2014, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by f10a View Post
I've had an app in since it opened in 12/06! Recs, 121, heavies, former delta cx, cp, vol, yada yada yada and crickets. Oh well I guess.
Sorry, my underlying assumption was military officer with 3k+ hours of fighter/trainer time and 20+ years of service since that's pretty much my peer group. The 10 months of submit to email invite seemed to be the differentiator between us -- GPA, jobs, quals didn't really make any apparent difference. I have zero expertise on what it takes for a civilian to get called.

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Old 09-21-2014, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyinIrish View Post
I feel like I'm competitive, but I also know that the pool of well qualified applicants is very large. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is; does anyone know if there is a schedule for when interview invites go out? Like, should I check my inbox on the second Thursday of the month? Or, do they go out at seemingly random times and any day could be the day, so keep checking your inbox furiously like some kind of gmail crackhead? Any thoughts?
I know their are hundreds of well qualified applicants just like you, all waiting for an interview. The problem is that the majority of all the hiring is from compass, endeavor and military. 50% of the 600 pilots this year have come from the military and the other 40% have come from compass and endeavor. That means that only 60 pilots like you and I have been hired this year. Talk about pretty tough odds and fierce competition. It will just be a matter of time until they get through the military and flow guys. Compass is down to around 167 pilots left with flow and the SSP for endeavor should start winding down as well. I was told about 40% of the 8000 applicants are military so that could take awhile to get through.

I have a couple of buddies that have been called that weren't flow and weren't military and they all had a high GPA. I think that a lot of guys have a lot of hours and a lot of TPIC so the only qualifying difference to go off of is a GPA, school, time in school and degree.
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Old 09-22-2014, 06:29 AM
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Do connections within Delta help or not? If not why in the world do I try to network? Seems like being connected only helps a select few close to the hr dept.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:40 AM
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Do connections within Delta help or not? If not why in the world do I try to network? Seems like being connected only helps a select few close to the hr dept.
An internal recommendation (or job fair) will get your application package looked at in a far timelier manner than it would without. Sorry I am still outside looking in and don't have specifics, but from information passed on this very board, an internal takes our app out of the pile of 12,000 and puts it in one of about 1,000.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:34 AM
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So time in school affects our scoring? This is frustrating since I took about 8 years to finish my degree online. I was flight instructing, flying Blackhawks in Iraq, flying CRJs around the country and starting a family. I would hope they could take this all into account. Fitting the profile seems like fitting a square peg in a round hole.


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Originally Posted by Flycameron View Post
I know their are hundreds of well qualified applicants just like you, all waiting for an interview. The problem is that the majority of all the hiring is from compass, endeavor and military. 50% of the 600 pilots this year have come from the military and the other 40% have come from compass and endeavor. That means that only 60 pilots like you and I have been hired this year. Talk about pretty tough odds and fierce competition. It will just be a matter of time until they get through the military and flow guys. Compass is down to around 167 pilots left with flow and the SSP for endeavor should start winding down as well. I was told about 40% of the 8000 applicants are military so that could take awhile to get through.

I have a couple of buddies that have been called that weren't flow and weren't military and they all had a high GPA. I think that a lot of guys have a lot of hours and a lot of TPIC so the only qualifying difference to go off of is a GPA, school, time in school and degree.
I think the SSP numbers are suppose to go up in the future, depending on how it plays out. Originally it was "the lesser number of . .":

-"1/3 of all available positions" OR
-15 in 2017, 20 in 2018 and beyond

The EtD boosted those numbers to 35% or 300 in a year, whichever is less. Who knows when/how the program will end.
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron View Post
I know their are hundreds of well qualified applicants just like you, all waiting for an interview. The problem is that the majority of all the hiring is from compass, endeavor and military. 50% of the 600 pilots this year have come from the military and the other 40% have come from compass and endeavor. That means that only 60 pilots like you and I have been hired this year. Talk about pretty tough odds and fierce competition. It will just be a matter of time until they get through the military and flow guys. Compass is down to around 167 pilots left with flow and the SSP for endeavor should start winding down as well. I was told about 40% of the 8000 applicants are military so that could take awhile to get through.

I have a couple of buddies that have been called that weren't flow and weren't military and they all had a high GPA. I think that a lot of guys have a lot of hours and a lot of TPIC so the only qualifying difference to go off of is a GPA, school, time in school and degree.
He's part of the 40%
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Originally Posted by Flycameron View Post
I know their are hundreds of well qualified applicants just like you, all waiting for an interview. The problem is that the majority of all the hiring is from compass, endeavor and military. 50% of the 600 pilots this year have come from the military and the other 40% have come from compass and endeavor. That means that only 60 pilots like you and I have been hired this year. Talk about pretty tough odds and fierce competition. It will just be a matter of time until they get through the military and flow guys. Compass is down to around 167 pilots left with flow and the SSP for endeavor should start winding down as well. I was told about 40% of the 8000 applicants are military so that could take awhile to get through.

I have a couple of buddies that have been called that weren't flow and weren't military and they all had a high GPA. I think that a lot of guys have a lot of hours and a lot of TPIC so the only qualifying difference to go off of is a GPA, school, time in school and degree.
According to DALPA slides, 2014 hires (as of July-ish, I believe) break down this way:

302 Civilian (55%)
196 Mil (36%)
51 Holdbacks (9%)
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