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Old 07-23-2013, 09:45 AM
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There were at least 5 new hires (most Compass flow-through) who washed out of training in '10 on the DC-9. I imagine it's hard to go from a glass cockpit to an airplane that has no automation and very little situational awareness. I doubt a new hire will see the DC-9 now but the MD88 would also be challenging (can't speak from personal experience). On the first bid the 717 went surprisingly senior. It is now more senior than the MD88 in ATL. However, with 35 vacancies in ATL and 65 in DTW, the 717 will probably be more accessible to new hires. I wouldn't hold out hope of getting the 7ER as a new hire.
"While the plan is still preliminary, over the next 12 months 10 757s have been slated for retirement, with six more during the second half of 2014. For 2015 the plan is for 15-20 757s to be removed from service."
There will be vacancies posted on the 737 and 717 approximately every 60 days, however, I would expect vacancies on the 737 to be filled by pilots being displaced off the 7ER as they draw down the category (just a hunch though).
Regardless of what you get assigned in class... expect to get a thumb drive that covers all of the systems. Focus on the Learning Objectives Document (LOD) and you should do well on the systems final.
The climate is a little different than it was in '10, however, military and non-flow-through regional pilots shouldn't abandon all hope. Delta is proud of their screening process and will still maintain a ratio in each class. Good luck
After the flows, regional and military, do they include corporate and 135 into their ratio?
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:56 AM
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1 washed out and went back to CZ and one was fired for being a tool. I don't think he has to worry about washing out since that would require getting hired 1st.
I'd be interested in hearing about what kind of toolish behavior cost this guy his job. Hard to imagine someone being that stupid.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:47 AM
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I'd be interested in hearing about what kind of toolish behavior cost this guy his job. Hard to imagine someone being that stupid.
Not hard to imagine. Some guys are just outright drama queen tools who deserve to be fired. ALPA usually gets their job back, but some guys are beyond saving.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:48 AM
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Do these furlough by-passers have the option to bypass again or is this a take it or leave scenario?
There around 20 pre merger NW guys who have another chance. But or a majority of the guys, this is the last chance.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:58 AM
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Any revised speculation of the returnee/flow-through/street hire mix?
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:12 PM
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Not hard to imagine. Some guys are just outright drama queen tools who deserve to be fired. ALPA usually gets their job back, but some guys are beyond saving.
I've flown with a few guys that I'd rather not fly with again, but I have never flown with anybody at Delta or Northwest that meets that description. The worst I've seen I'd call only mildly irritating.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:36 PM
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I've flown with a few guys that I'd rather not fly with again, but I have never flown with anybody at Delta or Northwest that meets that description. The worst I've seen I'd call only mildly irritating.
I believe they were talking about flows. While a majority of pilots are great, a few slip through. The thing with a flow is it is a job not earned through the traditional interview sense. Compass interview was set up as a NWA interview for the purposes of going to NWA. Delta took over and will honor that. As for Mesaba, I have no idea what their interview was, but it couldn't be too much different than any other regional interview.

The 2-day Delta interview is the best way to weed out the bad ones. The ones bypassing that 2-day process have a higher chance of slipping a bad personality through the cracks.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Roper92 View Post
After the flows, regional and military, do they include corporate and 135 into their ratio?
I'm not sure, Roper. There was a furloughed Netjets pilot in our class.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067 View Post
1 washed out and went back to CZ and one was fired for being a tool. I don't think he has to worry about washing out since that would require getting hired 1st.
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I'd be interested in hearing about what kind of toolish behavior cost this guy his job. Hard to imagine someone being that stupid.
I know who your talking about and it was more related to him being rather old to be on a steep learning curve like the "9" after 10,000+ hours of glass. However he probably had a bad attitude after he was told he was being let go after having trouble with IOE . Incidentally he was around 55 years old. You know what they say about old dogs. Always sorry to hear of another's misfortune.
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
6-packs belong in a fridge or an abdomen, not in a flightdeck so I don't fly a DC-9. I also don't fly anything smaller than what I already fly, which means it can only be NYC 7ER for me. Will Delta work with my special needs?
I know your just kidding because by the 2nd year you would be the same as a capped out VA 320FO even if you took our piddly lil 717. By the third year you would be pushing CA pay or better on most of our airframes. You have a fun job no doubt but don't let size influence your decision
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