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Old 03-27-2015 | 05:48 PM
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You're right. my bad. It was the NWA interview. But afterwards a DL styled interview, but not the actual one. Mea culpa.
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Old 03-27-2015 | 05:52 PM
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....there is plenty of straight regional pilot love to go around at the Big D
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Wait, what?

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Old 03-27-2015 | 06:12 PM
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It was most certainly not the NWA interview. The real one was 20 mins to prep and then hand fly the 747-200 sim from the captains seat. No autopilot, no flight director, night IFR, all hold types...fully flown and graded and a hand flown ILS. You had to have been invited to THAT interview and they were VERY specific in what they were looking for. We were all literally carbon copies of each other. There was no diversity in that regard. Proud to have made it with the other 160 guys. I had the needles pegged so hard my past instructors would have cried.
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Old 03-27-2015 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lou Reed
You're right. my bad. It was the NWA interview. But afterwards a DL styled interview, but not the actual one. Mea culpa.
I have many friends who were hired by Compass and have now flowed to Delta. You/they DID NOT have a NWA interview, no matter what they told you at Compass. You had a NWA-like interview, which when offered a CJO, had a requirement to remain employed at Compass for 30(?) months prior to being eligible for flow to NWA Airlines.

In 2007, NWA determined they were short approximately 200 pilots for the summer 2008 schedule. (I imagine talks were already being conducted, books were being 'looked at' for a merger with Delta, but nothing yet was 'set in stone'.) The pilots who had been hired by COMPASS had yet to meet their obligatory requirement of 30 months, so NWA opened an application window of their own. They invited interviewees to NATCO, led them through the NWA interview process, quite professionally I might add, and hired ~192 of their own pilots between September '07 through March '08.


Originally Posted by fly2002
It was most certainly not the NWA interview. The real one was 20 mins to prep and then hand fly the 747-200 sim from the captains seat. No autopilot, no flight director, night IFR, all hold types...fully flown and graded and a hand flown ILS. You had to have been invited to THAT interview and they were VERY specific in what they were looking for. We were all literally carbon copies of each other. There was no diversity in that regard. Proud to have made it with the other 160 guys. I had the needles pegged so hard my past instructors would have cried.
I agree with you, but the exact number was more like 192 pilots. Then the 'music' stopped.

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Old 03-27-2015 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
I have many friends who were hired by Compass and have now flowed to Delta. You/they DID NOT have a NWA interview, no matter what they told you at Compass. You had a NWA-like interview, which when offered a CJO, had a requirement to remain employed at Compass for 30(?) months prior to being eligible for flow to NWA Airlines.

In 2007, NWA determined they were short approximately 200 pilots for the summer 2008 schedule. (I imagine talks were already being conducted, books were being 'looked at' for a merger with Delta, but nothing yet was 'set in stone'.) The pilots who had been hired by COMPASS had yet to meet their obligatory requirement of 30 months, so NWA opened an application window of their own. They invited interviewees to NATCO, led them through the NWA interview process, quite professionally I might add, and hired ~192 of their own pilots between September '07 through March '08.




I agree with you, but the exact number was more like 192 pilots. Then the 'music' stopped.

Are the compass flows done?
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Old 03-28-2015 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
I had my availability for Friday of the week my internal email was sent. The next Monday I moved it to that Friday. I used that as my reminder to update my app once a week with hours and a new availability date.
Thanks.

I'm outside 60 days, so I am hoping that I am just waiting to get in their "window" for hiring.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Heed
Thanks.

I'm outside 60 days, so I am hoping that I am just waiting to get in their "window" for hiring.

Heed, I received my interview invite on 3/26 with an availability date of 6/1 if that helps. My last internal rec went in the first week of March as well.

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Old 03-28-2015 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron
Are the compass flows done?
No. They should all flow by the end of this year though. Approx 160 to go. The first 20 got hire dates in January and will physically be in class starting in April.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 4fans
Is it just me or are there a lot less updates on this thread in the last couple of months? It seems like every week we were getting updates on who got hired or not and why, now not much at all. My need for random, near useless information is suffering here.

Maybe all of the forum regulars are hired? And the noobs are unsure of themselves?

My question of the week is: When were the guys starting indoc right now given the CJO? I.E. what is the wait time?
I interviewed March 26-27 and they told us expect to be in class by mid-May. We were told that the currently planned pace from here on out meant 4-6 weeks between successful interview and being in class.

For the record, interview group was 3 pure civilian, 2 civ/mil and 6 pure military for a total of 11 in the group. 9 were hired. The two that didn't make it were one of the pure civilians and one of the civ/mil guys.

Edit: with respect to flows or SSP, there were zero there the day I interviewed. All the civies were OTS.

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Old 03-28-2015 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lear700pilot
I believe what is or has been hurting guys like me - pure civilian regional - the most is the flow and SSP guys. Nothing against them, but that's just what is eating up the civilian side of things. It amazes me that Delta would allow an agreement with Compass that didn't require some form of interview at least like the SSP program.
DL inherited the CPZ flow program and wanted to end it (because DL doesn't like flows) but it also inherited the language that created CPZ. If DL ended the flows on its own, it would have lost a lot of large RJ's because of the DL/NWA PWA/LOA language. A compromise was reached whereby the flow up program would end with the existing pilots on the CPZ list while preserving the flow down program whch allowed DL to keep those "large RJ's" at CPZ.

I think most CPZ pilots would have easily passed the DL interview, and there have only been a few they've had issues with. A couple with training and a few with attitude/entitlement mentality from what I've heard. The numbers of either are very low, but there is a small entitlement mentality some have. Perhaps they truly believe a DL job/flow is some kind of contractual due that they are owed when that is clearly not the case. But again, its only a tiny fraction of the group, most of which are great.

DL also inherited the Mesaba flow, but there was no DL/NWA PWA pilot hammer to stop them from ending it (i.e. forced parking of large RJs) so they ended it after grandfathering I think a year's worth as a courtesy (at a rate of 9 per month). That flow is already over.

In any case, the CPZ flow ups are almost over too. I'm not 100% sure what's going on with the Endeavor SSP situation, but in any case I'd think there would be more OTS interviews going out soon.
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