JungleBus

Naw, my comment was somewhat TIC, VA Ave really wasn't that bad. I've heard it's got a lot better over the years. That said, I wouldn't walk in the area between the holiday inn & the training center alone at night. Once you get west of the cemetery or east of Crew Outfitters it's a lot better, I routinely walked home (behind the Greek gyro place) after D periods. First block occasionally had some sketchy dudes hanging out for no particular reason, after that always felt pretty safe. During indoc I walked between training center & spondivets/malone's area at night (with other guys) & wouldn't have felt horribly safe alone. Pretty much matched what the instructors told me (though a few thought I was nuts to walk on VA Ave at all).

JungleBus

Sooo it's noon on Monday, anyone have the class drop yet!?

wutever

14 nyc 320
5 nyc 73
14 atl 71
4 atl 73
13 atl md

ghilis101

wow this is a really ideal drop! good variety

Mookie B

Any idea where the last couple of spots went? I'm in the low last-4 club for the July 7th class.

ghilis101

ATL/MD-88 ... surprising since I figured the bottom slots would have been NYC. I guess every class is different ... you and I are in the same boat, maybe we'll be sim partners haha

Flying Elvis

Moving between DTW-NYC-ATL on same aircraft is going to happen relatively quickly, vs the 1yr seat lock on aircraft type. If one of those 3 bases is your goal, bidding aircraft first (as long as that aircraft is in that base) probably not a bad idea. Almost everybody that got NYC or DTW in the 2 Jun class who wanted ATL got it in the AE already.

Flying Elvis

+1 on this.

HTBH

Quick question for the wiser people on the forum on this as I try to clarify options as a new guy...

In the last couple of new hire classes since start of May 58 NYC A320B's were given out to new hires. (Last 4 drops in May and June...15, 9, 20 and now 14. As one of them I'm hoping more come down in July and August as well...) So my question is why so many to 320B's to NYC if people can immediately bid off and there's only about 75 NYC 320B pilots at all. I have a tough time believing that the bottom 58 will be gone in the next 4-6 months out of NYC and the number one guy 320 guy at the start of May will be that senior in that short a time. If drops keep anything like this, in a few short months they'll clear out the whole FO force up there (is it that bad that people leave that quickly...?). Is it a case of the hiring guys, the training dept and the schedulers not quite being in sync, a contract thing, or is there something else I don't get? Why not just give the ATL 320's out directly?

Just trying to figure out how all this works....

gloopy

Its no skin off their nose if someone leaves a category in the first year, because they can only do so if there was another opening in another base that they'd have to new hire into anyway, and they control how fast and how many can leave any given month as well.

The NYC 320 category is wrapping up a major expansion, yet its still a fairly small category. It is settling into the size it will likely be for a long time. With no more expansion, I think it will stabilize and stagnate. The fleet over all isn't growing and the 321's won't be here for a while anyway.

The category is fairly brutal because its full of AM reports and PM releases, flies a lot out of all 3 bases (though LGA more than the others) and if you commute, which most do especially to NYC, you will lose a lot of "off days" on each end of it. Yet it will be hard for the very junior to progress for a while because senior pilots will always be bidding in whenever they can hold the relavite percentile they are comfortable with.