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Old 07-31-2014 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Depends on if there are flows in your class. If you are early in a month before November, there is a good chance it will contain flows and that you may get advanced notice. Otherwise its usually day one or two.
Thanks gloopy. Low last 4, so it likely won't matter anyway
It's all good either way! I'm just excited to get started!
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Old 07-31-2014 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
..Bad news, you don't get the ground school instruction anymore
717s get two days of systems "review" going over the LOD before the eSV. Some planes get only one day, but I'm not sure which.

Do the CBTs, study the LOD, pay attention in class and you'll do fine.
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Old 08-01-2014 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
Electronic Systems Validation..basically a computer test of all limitations, boldface and systems questions specific to the aircraft you're training on. We used to have to pass an oral exam after ground school (think "what happens to a molecule of air entering the inlet of the ATF-3?") but that was replaced by watered-down CBT (usually a CD you complete prior to showing up for training) and then the ESV in the first couple of days after showing up for class. Just like the written tests we took at ATC Mobile but not requiring the "depth of knowledge" regarding systems that you're used to.

Bad news, you don't get the ground school instruction anymore, but the good news is you'll spend less time on Virginia Ave...and there's plenty of extra study material and gouge to go around!

Good luck, hope you get an interview soon!
And a caveat about the ESV. Since there is no ground school it's on you to study the LODs and come prepared to pass the test. Some of the sections, for example Comm, which have so few questions that if you miss one or two you kick yourself into the retry mode. It's a little tricky. Be prepared.
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Old 08-01-2014 | 04:06 AM
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Is the paychart here on APC accurate? Will in change in Jan?

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Old 08-01-2014 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik
Is the paychart here on APC accurate? Will in change in Jan?

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3% raise in Jan.

70.00 per hour year 1 and 100 an hour year two on the MD 88. Not sure what APC says.

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Old 08-04-2014 | 04:59 AM
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Any word on today's class drop?

This is oversimplified I am sure, but tell me if I have this right. If I go back 3 pages and find the vacancies from the last AE, then pull out the class drops since then, plus today's and next weeks, I get what is available to be offered to the 18 Aug class? Yes, that is my class date. Time for me to start figuring out what I want to fly when I grow up!

And when is the next AE to come out?
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Old 08-04-2014 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Any word on today's class drop?

This is oversimplified I am sure, but tell me if I have this right. If I go back 3 pages and find the vacancies from the last AE, then pull out the class drops since then, plus today's and next weeks, I get what is available to be offered to the 18 Aug class? Yes, that is my class date. Time for me to start figuring out what I want to fly when I grow up!

And when is the next AE to come out?
I'm in that class too. Can't wait to start!!!
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Old 08-04-2014 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Any word on today's class drop?

This is oversimplified I am sure, but tell me if I have this right. If I go back 3 pages and find the vacancies from the last AE, then pull out the class drops since then, plus today's and next weeks, I get what is available to be offered to the 18 Aug class? Yes, that is my class date. Time for me to start figuring out what I want to fly when I grow up!

And when is the next AE to come out?
that's pretty precise but if you want to ballpark it, Its somewhat predictable, mostly random. If youre super low, welcome to the MD88 or 717 If youre super high (7xxx or so), youll have a choice of at least 2 or more aircraft. Some recommend bidding MD88 anyway since its a moneymaker and will get you a good schedule pretty fast without the limited range of the 717. In our class the high SSN's took all the 73n/a320/717 slots, and all the MD88s went to the bottom, meaning not one person who actually had a choice to take another aircraft, chose the md88 over that other aircraft. However that did not hold true for the 7/21 class. 8 out of the last 10 slots went 717. Pretty interesting how each class has a totally different dynamic. In another class, a320 went at or near the bottom. So bid what you want and you just might get it. Good luck!
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Old 08-04-2014 | 10:10 AM
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Atl is going to be my easiest commute, which of the standard FNG options provide the most commutable options in ATL? The way hiring is going, seems there will be more jr folks behind you pretty quick no matter the platform. So being able to commute in and out without always addng extra days to the trip would be my best QOL option. Second consideration is I think I would prefer fewer/longer legs vice more/shorter.
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Old 08-04-2014 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
Atl is going to be my easiest commute, which of the standard FNG options provide the most commutable options in ATL? The way hiring is going, seems there will be more jr folks behind you pretty quick no matter the platform. So being able to commute in and out without always addng extra days to the trip would be my best QOL option. Second consideration is I think I would prefer fewer/longer legs vice more/shorter.
717 went senior in my class. Mainly for the quick movement, secondly for the ease of transition from previous equipment, as compared to the 88 or ER. Spent 1 month on reserve before I had a line. My first month with a line was 100% commutable trips (out of an airport with only 3 nonstops a day), with anywhere from 2-5 days off in between 3-4 day trips. Yes, the 717s have short legs, but I don't mind it or regret my choice at all. When I'm at work, I don't mind working, I'm all about commutability and days off! I can't understand, though, the people that prefer longer legs.

It's been a great experience, I am astounded at the movement and feel very lucky to be here.
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