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Old 02-03-2015 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8vu
I went to indoc and then moved to SLC during the 2 weeks off before the sim. Stressful--yes and doable if you have pressing timeline. Problem is you won't know how much time you will actually have off until day 3 or 4 of indoc.
Also--I commuted to NYC for 4 months before getting to SLC (told my wife to plan on 6 months to 2 years of commuting). I asked for 3 days off to hold my mil retirement ceremony after sims and had to jump through hoops with OE scheduler to get it approved and finally ended up taking mil leave. In the end it all worked out but the scheduler is under alot of pressure to get folks done in the timeline allotted. Your first chance to drive the fate of your schedule will be the month after OE when you are able to put in your bid preferences for the whole month. I bid 7-12 days on reserve with a min of 6 days off. Others would do all their reserve in one 15-16 day stretch and then have 2 weeks off. YMMV based on airframe and seniority and time of year (fall in NYC was pretty slow on the 320). Agree with post above--don't move to NYC on a whim since there are other places that will be available fairly quickly in your first few months. I grew up in Utah so it was no brainer to move from NJ from the start.
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Old 02-03-2015 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8vu
Also--I commuted to NYC for 4 months before getting to SLC (told my wife to plan on 6 months to 2 years of commuting). I asked for 3 days off to hold my mil retirement ceremony after sims and had to jump through hoops with OE scheduler to get it approved and finally ended up taking mil leave. In the end it all worked out but the scheduler is under alot of pressure to get folks done in the timeline allotted. Your first chance to drive the fate of your schedule will be the month after OE when you are able to put in your bid preferences for the whole month. I bid 7-12 days on reserve with a min of 6 days off. Others would do all their reserve in one 15-16 day stretch and then have 2 weeks off. YMMV based on airframe and seniority and time of year (fall in NYC was pretty slow on the 320). Agree with post above--don't move to NYC on a whim since there are other places that will be available fairly quickly in your first few months. I grew up in Utah so it was no brainer to move from NJ from the start.
Thx for this reply. Great info. The problem I have is setting up my move with mil funding. I don't know if I can push it out that far, and if I can....I need to pick the dates now. It looks like waiting is best for max options.
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Old 02-03-2015 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyMarines
Thx for this reply. Great info. The problem I have is setting up my move with mil funding. I don't know if I can push it out that far, and if I can....I need to pick the dates now. It looks like waiting is best for max options.

You can push it 180 days from your separation....then you can extend it another 180 as long as you put in for it before the first 180 is up.


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Old 02-03-2015 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8vu
Also--I commuted to NYC for 4 months before getting to SLC (told my wife to plan on 6 months to 2 years of commuting). I asked for 3 days off to hold my mil retirement ceremony after sims and had to jump through hoops with OE scheduler to get it approved and finally ended up taking mil leave. In the end it all worked out but the scheduler is under alot of pressure to get folks done in the timeline allotted. Your first chance to drive the fate of your schedule will be the month after OE when you are able to put in your bid preferences for the whole month. I bid 7-12 days on reserve with a min of 6 days off. Others would do all their reserve in one 15-16 day stretch and then have 2 weeks off. YMMV based on airframe and seniority and time of year (fall in NYC was pretty slow on the 320). Agree with post above--don't move to NYC on a whim since there are other places that will be available fairly quickly in your first few months. I grew up in Utah so it was no brainer to move from NJ from the start.
One more consideration....won't I be able to hold a line and get better scheduling staying in NYC? For a few years, then move westward with seniority.
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Old 02-03-2015 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyMarines
One more consideration....won't I be able to hold a line and get better scheduling staying in NYC? For a few years, then move westward with seniority.
Without question you will hold better trips and sooner in NYC. Keep in mind if you live there you will pay NY state and NYC income tax. You can make some of that back by going car less since you really don't need one in the city.
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Old 02-03-2015 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyMarines
One more consideration....won't I be able to hold a line and get better scheduling staying in NYC? For a few years, then move westward with seniority.
Several in our indoc moved to NY area with their families. I also have friends living in central NJ and PA (seems to be the location of choice for lower taxes but longer commute). Folks complain about covering 3 airports but I didn't mind it so much but long distance commuting is painful/stressful and living in a crashpad is mind numbing.

I lived in base housing so wanted to only do one move. I found out after the fact that the AF would have moved me off base initially when my time ran out there and then paid for a final move once I decided on a final location.
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Old 02-03-2015 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8vu
Several in our indoc moved to NY area with their families. I also have friends living in central NJ and PA (seems to be the location of choice for lower taxes but longer commute). Folks complain about covering 3 airports but I didn't mind it so much but long distance commuting is painful/stressful and living in a crashpad is mind numbing.

I lived in base housing so wanted to only do one move. I found out after the fact that the AF would have moved me off base initially when my time ran out there and then paid for a final move once I decided on a final location.
How long after your retirement date, would they move you for your final move? Thanks again for the great info!
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Old 02-04-2015 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyMarines
How long after your retirement date, would they move you for your final move? Thanks again for the great info!
A buddy of mine told me that you could get one year initially and then request extensions after that for potentially up to two to three years (I can't remember exactly). On a LI Vet forum, I saw some posts that showed folks not moving for two years and it involved requests to extend. But I also noticed the gouge passed by the so called "HHG experts" varied widely to the service members. Another poster on this forum said 180 days plus 180 days.

I tried reading the JFTR (or JTFR) myself and couldn't seem to decipher the language enough to confirm the timeline. But I did notice that there was also a section in there on goods being placed in storage and then moved.

We plan on living where we are at for another 18 months after retirement until the oldest graduates high school and then punching. I will be visiting the move folks soon to see what they say. Recommend you do the same. If they say anything less than two years, I would reach out to another base for a second/third opinion.
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Old 02-04-2015 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyMarines
How long after your retirement date, would they move you for your final move? Thanks again for the great info!
it's only on the same page........
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Old 02-04-2015 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyMarines
How long after your retirement date, would they move you for your final move? Thanks again for the great info!
Answered already (1 year, plus extensions). Just adding, my understanding is that it's the *storage* of your household goods that drives the time limit, not the move itself. If you need to go beyond your time limit but are willing to foot the bill for the storage, I believe the move itself is still covered.

Definitely research this for yourself before you press-to-test, I didn't do it this way myself so I'm only relaying my (possibly flawed) understanding of the rules....
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