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07-07-2015, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I am still deciding, believe it or not. It is not a great deal by any stretch. It doesn't suck as bad as some of you are saying. It's close to being acceptable and it's close to being not.
What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
07-07-2015, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
BR,
What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
07-07-2015, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
BR,
What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
07-07-2015, 06:49 PM
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This TA proves that we really do have a lot of pilots that vote yes to absolutely everything. Voting no would be admitting we are labor. I am a permanent no voter because I have come to the conclusion that my goals for this pilot group are a hell of a lot higher than ALPA's. I still never thought this TA was going to be this ****ty. ALPA always seems to surprise me with scope concessions and quality of life concessions. They never end.
07-07-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Admittedly I cannot cite specific examples off the cuff, but they are out there.
As in, things that outweigh the bad ones.
07-07-2015, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
This TA proves that we really do have a lot of pilots that vote yes to absolutely everything. Voting no would be admitting we are labor. I am a permanent no voter because I have come to the conclusion that my goals for this pilot group are a hell of a lot higher than ALPA's. I still never thought this TA was going to be this ****ty. ALPA always seems to surprise me with scope concessions and quality of life concessions. They never end.
07-07-2015, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
And I cannot believe some of you are so emotionally driven as I have seen on here.
We will be stuck with IOE giveback with hiring just starting. 2018 we have a ton of retirements.
Sick policy is a joke.
Scope with heavy jets?
2 yr seatlock for our newhires.
Reduction in our profit sharing make Jan 1st 6% raise only 2.5%
All in record profits. This is what we are talking about.
July 14th the company will let us know the new earning just after the vote closes on July 10th??
07-08-2015, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I would say that since they are paying 1/4 of the profits to the employees in bonuses, the activist investors/hedge fund managers/institutional investors, you know, the owners, are wondering where their cut is. Just a guess.
07-08-2015, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Not emotional. Disappointed on how our union would bring us this TA with record profits.
We will be stuck with IOE giveback with hiring just starting. 2018 we have a ton of retirements.
Sick policy is a joke.
Scope with heavy jets?
2 yr seatlock for our newhires.
Reduction in our profit sharing make Jan 1st 6% raise only 2.5%
All in record profits. This is what we are talking about.
July 14th the company will let us know the new earning just after the vote closes on July 10th??
We will be stuck with IOE giveback with hiring just starting. 2018 we have a ton of retirements.
Sick policy is a joke.
Scope with heavy jets?
2 yr seatlock for our newhires.
Reduction in our profit sharing make Jan 1st 6% raise only 2.5%
All in record profits. This is what we are talking about.
July 14th the company will let us know the new earning just after the vote closes on July 10th??
07-08-2015, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
You're clueless. Vote yes and be done with the senseless drivel.
This TA is insanely bad. I thought when voting opened that it would pass 55-45. Now i think it will pass 60-40. The RA message swayed a lot of people. Im hearing even more people come out and say they changed their votes to Yes.
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