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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:25 PM
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You were not one of the ones I was referring to here Scambo.
I'm weeping now.
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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I am still deciding, believe it or not. It is not a great deal by any stretch. It doesn't suck as bad as some of you are saying. It's close to being acceptable and it's close to being not.
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What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
BR,

What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
I don't think anything here on APC is any farther "out there" than the rants of our own MEC chairman.
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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
BR,

What are some specific examples of people saying making things out to be worst about this TA than they really are?
Admittedly I cannot cite specific examples off the cuff, but they are out there.
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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:49 PM
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This TA proves that we really do have a lot of pilots that vote yes to absolutely everything. Voting no would be admitting we are labor. I am a permanent no voter because I have come to the conclusion that my goals for this pilot group are a hell of a lot higher than ALPA's. I still never thought this TA was going to be this ****ty. ALPA always seems to surprise me with scope concessions and quality of life concessions. They never end.
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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Admittedly I cannot cite specific examples off the cuff, but they are out there.
Ok. How about, what is really good for the line pilot? Can you name some specific things?

As in, things that outweigh the bad ones.
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Old 07-07-2015 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
This TA proves that we really do have a lot of pilots that vote yes to absolutely everything. Voting no would be admitting we are labor. I am a permanent no voter because I have come to the conclusion that my goals for this pilot group are a hell of a lot higher than ALPA's. I still never thought this TA was going to be this ****ty. ALPA always seems to surprise me with scope concessions and quality of life concessions. They never end.
I have to agree with your first sentence. We will soon find out what the percentage is. And so will the company.
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Old 07-07-2015 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
And I cannot believe some of you are so emotionally driven as I have seen on here.
Not emotional. Disappointed on how our union would bring us this TA with record profits.

We will be stuck with IOE giveback with hiring just starting. 2018 we have a ton of retirements.

Sick policy is a joke.

Scope with heavy jets?

2 yr seatlock for our newhires.

Reduction in our profit sharing make Jan 1st 6% raise only 2.5%

All in record profits. This is what we are talking about.
July 14th the company will let us know the new earning just after the vote closes on July 10th??
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Old 07-08-2015 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I would say that since they are paying 1/4 of the profits to the employees in bonuses, the activist investors/hedge fund managers/institutional investors, you know, the owners, are wondering where their cut is. Just a guess.
You're clueless. Vote yes and be done with the senseless drivel.
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Old 07-08-2015 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
Not emotional. Disappointed on how our union would bring us this TA with record profits.

We will be stuck with IOE giveback with hiring just starting. 2018 we have a ton of retirements.

Sick policy is a joke.

Scope with heavy jets?

2 yr seatlock for our newhires.

Reduction in our profit sharing make Jan 1st 6% raise only 2.5%

All in record profits. This is what we are talking about.
July 14th the company will let us know the new earning just after the vote closes on July 10th??
At least they can say, it's a cost neutral contract again.
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