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09-11-2014 | 08:30 PM

#1771

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear

So is Shiznet the NYC rep from a few years ago who led the charge in getting Roberts voted out? Then the NYC pilots voted him out. I have noticed that guy is in an ALPA. He seems like a good dude when I have talked to him, but lying even on the Internet is not cool.

Saying any more than I've said would out him and that's not right. There's plenty of reps that have been voted out and went straight to MEC admin positions.

Carl

09-12-2014 | 03:04 AM

#1772

forgot to bid

veut gagner à la loterie

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From: Light Chop

Domestic per diem = international per diem

09-12-2014 | 03:45 AM

#1773

index

Wind the clock beoch

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy

Where's the outrage?

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I save my outrage for when it's deserved. Like what ALPA did to the TWA pilots. And for when ALPA tried to break the union of their own internal clerical workers. And when they backed the age 65 rule against the wishes of its members.

What do you save your outrage for PG?

Carl

Add to that list Lee Moak's recent absurd comments to Wall Street that:

ALPA pilots at the larger carriers already enjoy “mature, good contracts” already. And that radical overhauls aren’t in the cards.

or ALPA's support of allowing knives in the cabin!!!!

Delta was the first airline to come out against this ill-conceived idea. F/A unions were against it. CAPA was against it.

ALPA---for it! You just can't make this kind of stuff up folks. It would be funny if it weren't so downright scary that our NATIONAL union is that out of touch with reality!

What about ALPA's disastorous role in what has now become the Part 117 "rest" rules???

09-12-2014 | 04:56 AM

#1774

orvil

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From: Decoupled

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Thanks man. I was thinking of you and your bride the other day after a beautiful unwinding of a derivative position that went as perfect as one could go. Hope you guys are well.

Carl

Sometimes life is just good.

09-12-2014 | 05:09 AM

#1775

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Domestic per diem = international per diem

It does? Or are you saying it should?

09-12-2014 | 05:29 AM

#1776

DAWGS

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From: No to large RJs

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

Sorry, but I disagree. I don't expect my rep to act as the puppet of the pilot group. I expect him to learn much more about the circumstances surrounding our careers and future prospects than I ever care to, and to use that knowledge to advance my career to the greatest extent possible and along the lines of my desires. To the extent that he does not meet my goals and/or expectations, I expect him either to adequately justify his actions or step aside.

That is the true essence of a representational democracy.

I actually agree with you. The problem is for this system to work we must have a way to measure the performance or results of the system. There is no way to gauge performance when all the measuring sticks are kept super top secret. My reps lost all credibility when they told me guys wants CDOs!! Really? So those (5% maybe??) of guys who want CDOs justify back dooring them in a TA? That is not a representational democracy. CDOs are just one good example.

I predict we will see CDOs (Split-duty) in this next TA. The reason....ALPA is not a representational democracy.

09-12-2014 | 05:58 AM

#1777

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

It does? Or are you saying it should?

It should be the same. I hear that from the former ER pilots turned 717 captains hat they spend more money on the 717 then the ER.

So I sayz change it.

09-12-2014 | 06:04 AM

#1778

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by DAWGS

My reps lost all credibility when they told me guys wants CDOs!! Really? So those (5% maybe??) of guys who want CDOs justify back dooring them in a TA? That is not a representational democracy. CDOs are just one good example.

I have no idea how or why CDOs were part of that TA, and I'm certainly glad they were taken out. That said, the public survey that's going on through another website shows that almost 40% of guys responding are in favor of CDOs.

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Originally Posted by DAWGS

I predict we will see CDOs (Split-duty) in this next TA. The reason....ALPA is not a representational democracy.

I predict we will not, but if we do, I believe it will be because ALPA's survey showed a majority of pilots in favor.

09-12-2014 | 06:06 AM

#1779

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

It should be the same. I hear that from the former ER pilots turned 717 captains hat they spend more money on the 717 then the ER.

It certainly is true that int'l guys are fed pretty regularly while on duty, thus reducing the need for buying food during that time. That said, a meal in Paris or Rome is typically much more expensive than in Fargo or Birmingham.

I personally like the notion of indexing per diem to the layover city.