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Old 09-17-2014, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
We tried the open for the moon strategy once. We lost 7 of the 15 777's and ended up 100 an hour below our opener with a new rate about 10 bucks an hour above the companies opener.
Then let's take concessions for shiney new jets!!
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:13 AM
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Then let's take concessions for shiney new jets!!

Sounds good to me.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:19 AM
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RA has told Wall Street over and over we are in the bag.

Dragging out C2015 and going to war is not an option for him.

This insane fleet strategy has him in a box as well. Our pilots average age is 53 plus. IMO they are angry and impatient.

Management has their options and we do as well. And to be clear i'm not talking about any illegal activities. Informational picketing and working to rule would change the dynamic rapidly.

Let's hope management chooses to recognize our billions in concessions and the value.we bring to the corporation.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:22 AM
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Sounds good to me.

Big surprise there.

You and Sailing need to learn management never considers pilots when buying jets.

EVER
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:35 AM
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Big surprise there.

You and Sailing need to learn management never considers pilots when buying jets.

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Wow... news flash. Jerry finally gets it. Yet you still like that bigger pays more crapola....

Just how clueless do you think everybody else is Jerry?

And where's this mythical chart that you alluded to on the doughnut site. I saw nothing there other than the usual garbage.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
Wow... news flash. Jerry finally gets it. Yet you still like that bigger pays more crapola....

Just how clueless do you think everybody else is Jerry?

And where's this mythical chart that you alluded to on the doughnut site. I saw nothing there other than the usual garbage.


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Old 09-17-2014, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post

I STRONGLY suggest you guys think hard about what you'd like to accomplish and find a constructive way to get there.
Yes. Because DALPA always knows best.

Serious question: Do you think DALPA has ever made a strategic or tactical mistake? If so...what?

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Old 09-17-2014, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Dragging out C2015 and going to war is not an option for him.
Not an all out protracted war, that is probably true, but he can inflict serious damage on us way before we can on him by simply doing nothing. You are putting a lot of stock in that "labor peace" thingy. It's a big bet you are advocating. I am not saying that we should lay down, not by a long shot, but if you think merely talking about labor unrest is gonna get us a lot more, you are delusional.

Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
This insane fleet strategy has him in a box as well. Our pilots average age is 53 plus. IMO they are angry and impatient.
Insane fleet plan? Do elucidate please. As to the "age 53" thing, you are probably right, but that means they have 12 years left. If they spend 3 or 4 of that getting the gains that you and others say we deserve, maybe it isn't all that good a deal.. Oh wait.. TVM is a myth. Nevermind.

Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Management has their options and we do as well. And to be clear i'm not talking about any illegal activities. Informational picketing and working to rule would change the dynamic rapidly.
Knock yourself out. I'll be right there when the time for it is right. Until then..... I'll keep going to work and doing my job.

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Let's hope management chooses to recognize our billions in concessions and the value.we bring to the corporation.
I hope they do too.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:48 AM
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And where's this mythical chart that you alluded to on the doughnut site. I saw nothing there other than the usual garbage.
You asked for it! I finally found a way to post it.

If you've read my posts over the years, this should not be new information to you.
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:50 AM
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Knock yourself out. I'll be right there when the time for it is right. Until then..... I'll keep going to work and doing my job.


The time will never be right for you, T.

Hey, I think I just figured out your problem. It's "low T." (get it? )
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