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05-01-2015, 05:43 AM
#3791
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Troll? Pretty sure I've been here a lot longer than you. Just tired (again) of the fact that no one can have a point of view without 10 of your posts telling them how they're wrong. Especially when your track record is so bad. Give and take is good but when someone comes on here with a post then gets Fud, company wonk, shill, now troll in return, that's wrong. You seem to be a very angry, bitter old man who beats the same message drum day in and day out.
Carl
05-01-2015, 06:51 AM
#3793
Weekend and Holiday Pilot
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: Sippin' at the Troubadour
Posts: 1,141
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Just read any TA, evaluate, vote accordingly and give your fellow pilot the deference to do the same.
05-01-2015, 07:32 AM
#3794
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,108
C2015 Is on the very fast track. Why? We can speculate and debate, IMO management want it done quick for 2 reasons:
1) American Airlines will make $3.3 billion plus in Q2 and it will become apparent to even the slowest that they will make $10 billion plus this year and we will make the same in 2016 with no poor hedging. Reducing profit sharing will not even remotely be an option and management knows that. Simply look at all the recent trial balloons for reducing profit sharing here and on chit chat, not to mention LCA AQFOs.
2) Concessions--Even after their own Steve Dickson told them to begin hiring earlier, our management chose not to. Now (as I have predicted over and over) the schoolhouse is full and we are training off campus. Now the fact that they cannot train enough pilots to cover the schedule is our fault. And they need concessions. Our PWA is written in sand.
If our leaders choose to make concessions, they must be temporary. Using C2012 as an example. We will flex up the ALV 2 hours for 24 months while management catches up with the training they neglected. For this concession, management will upgrade a minimum of 100 captains per month and pay the extra 2 hours at time and a half.
Many said this would never happen and training would never be an issue. Here we are in a bind and the retirements have barely begun.
**** poor planning on your part does.........
1) American Airlines will make $3.3 billion plus in Q2 and it will become apparent to even the slowest that they will make $10 billion plus this year and we will make the same in 2016 with no poor hedging. Reducing profit sharing will not even remotely be an option and management knows that. Simply look at all the recent trial balloons for reducing profit sharing here and on chit chat, not to mention LCA AQFOs.
2) Concessions--Even after their own Steve Dickson told them to begin hiring earlier, our management chose not to. Now (as I have predicted over and over) the schoolhouse is full and we are training off campus. Now the fact that they cannot train enough pilots to cover the schedule is our fault. And they need concessions. Our PWA is written in sand.
If our leaders choose to make concessions, they must be temporary. Using C2012 as an example. We will flex up the ALV 2 hours for 24 months while management catches up with the training they neglected. For this concession, management will upgrade a minimum of 100 captains per month and pay the extra 2 hours at time and a half.
Many said this would never happen and training would never be an issue. Here we are in a bind and the retirements have barely begun.
**** poor planning on your part does.........
05-01-2015, 07:44 AM
#3795
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,308
Originally Posted by gzsg
C2015 Is on the very fast track. Why? We can speculate and debate, IMO management want it done quick for 2 reasons:
1) American Airlines will make $3.3 billion plus in Q2 and it will become apparent to even the slowest that they will make $10 billion plus this year and we will make the same in 2016 with no poor hedging. Reducing profit sharing will not even remotely be an option and management knows that. Simply look at all the recent trial balloons for reducing profit sharing here and on chit chat, not to mention LCA AQFOs.
2) Concessions--Even after their own Steve Dickson told them to begin hiring earlier, our management chose not to. Now (as I have predicted over and over) the schoolhouse is full and we are training off campus. Now the fact that they cannot train enough pilots to cover the schedule is our fault. And they need concessions. Our PWA is written in sand.
If our leaders choose to make concessions, they must be temporary. Using C2012 as an example. We will flex up the ALV 2 hours for 24 months while management catches up with the training they neglected. For this concession, management will upgrade a minimum of 100 captains per month and pay the extra 2 hours at time and a half.
Many said this would never happen and training would never be an issue. Here we are in a bind and the retirements have barely begun.
**** poor planning on your part does.........
1) American Airlines will make $3.3 billion plus in Q2 and it will become apparent to even the slowest that they will make $10 billion plus this year and we will make the same in 2016 with no poor hedging. Reducing profit sharing will not even remotely be an option and management knows that. Simply look at all the recent trial balloons for reducing profit sharing here and on chit chat, not to mention LCA AQFOs.
2) Concessions--Even after their own Steve Dickson told them to begin hiring earlier, our management chose not to. Now (as I have predicted over and over) the schoolhouse is full and we are training off campus. Now the fact that they cannot train enough pilots to cover the schedule is our fault. And they need concessions. Our PWA is written in sand.
If our leaders choose to make concessions, they must be temporary. Using C2012 as an example. We will flex up the ALV 2 hours for 24 months while management catches up with the training they neglected. For this concession, management will upgrade a minimum of 100 captains per month and pay the extra 2 hours at time and a half.
Many said this would never happen and training would never be an issue. Here we are in a bind and the retirements have barely begun.
**** poor planning on your part does.........
05-01-2015, 07:59 AM
#3796
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,108
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Jerry, I just went through training. They are doing fine. We talked a long time ago about this and you said they would not even be able to hire 100 a month. They are hiring in excess of that number now. They are going off sight for some training but most of that will be brought back in house with the addition of a 737 and a330 sim. Nobody in the training department was talking or acting like a big crises is looming.
Perhaps since training us under control we can actually get more training and not less.
Thanks for the info.
Jerry
05-02-2015, 01:32 AM
#3799
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Captain
Posts: 826
Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Once. It was, as you might suspect, unproductive.
05-04-2015, 12:10 PM
#3800
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: Capt
Posts: 38
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Jerry, I just went through training. They are doing fine. We talked a long time ago about this and you said they would not even be able to hire 100 a month. They are hiring in excess of that number now. They are going off sight for some training but most of that will be brought back in house with the addition of a 737 and a330 sim. Nobody in the training department was talking or acting like a big crises is looming.
I am presently in the schoolhouse and my newhire training partner checked out the newest class. The newest class is half the size of his class due to the lengthening time it is taking to get the newhires a training slot. As it is, some newhires are waiting weeks between indoc and airplane school due to a full training schedule.
Miami simulators are being used by DAL with no talking about winding that down even after the new 737 sims are certified by the FAA.
LP
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