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Old 06-02-2015, 05:25 AM
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If the MEC really wanted your opinion, they would give it to you....
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:31 AM
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Management can't pay me enough to work more.

Any QOL giveback will generate a "no" from me regardless of the rate increase.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
"Money hasn't been discussed."



There's been a lot of panic about all the concessions but that could all be silenced when management slides that last crucial slip of paper across the table.



OK. I will admit it. I can be bought. (except maybe on scope)



But if all these concessions are in the deal, its going to have to be A LOT more than 9966.



Once money does get discussed, we should know real soon whether to walk away for a few weeks.

I'm new to looking at this contract stuff for you guys. Can you tell me what 9966 means? I've seen it a few times now.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by james014 View Post
I'm new to looking at this contract stuff for you guys. Can you tell me what 9966 means? I've seen it a few times now.
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Good question.
Sometimes we use too much jargon and shorthand around here. Makes it tough for the new hires.

9966 are percentage increases to the Section 3 base pay rates.
In this case it means a 9% raise on the date of signing (presumably Septemberish??), another 9% on 1/1/16, 6% on 1/1/17, and 6% on 1/1/18.
Amendable again on 1/1/19.

Contract 2012 pay raises were 4833. You've probably seen that number on here also.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Management can't pay me enough to work more.

Any QOL giveback will generate a "no" from me regardless of the rate increase.
But, but, but, what if they gave us a billion dollar per hour raise to work one additional minute per year! Shirley you would vote for that! OK, now that we've established work rules are for sale, let's talk (realistic or else the evil mean NMB will park us for all eternity) price!

And so we keep allowing the discussion to be framed in their favor.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by james014 View Post
I'm new to looking at this contract stuff for you guys. Can you tell me what 9966 means? I've seen it a few times now.
Can someone tell me what 15/15/6/6 means?
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74 View Post
Can someone tell me what 15/15/6/6 means?
It means you're getting warmer.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:42 AM
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OK. I will admit it. I can be bought. (except maybe on scope)


For 50%, I'd probably verify ALL my sick leave and send in a weekly stool sample for monitoring. Less than that or significant concessions and I might just do the stool sample.
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Old 06-02-2015, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf View Post
Just a reminder how old and stale these pay rates really are. They were written 15 years ago.

Attachment 2128

Thank God home prices and commodities haven't gone up 250% since then.


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Old 06-02-2015, 06:49 AM
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Can someone tell me what 15/15/6/6 means?

Alaska scope carveout eliminated, outright purchase of Virgin and a strong Chinese carrier, one list. Deal. Thinking long term.


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