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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
I've been so stunned by this capitulation, nay, sell-out that I've been unable to post.

But sick leave investigation back to 2012? This truly is historic! Retroactive Concessions?! This HAS to be a first!

Very happy to stick with our current agreement and go from there. Be Not Afraid.
Just curious. How would they investigate past sick usage?
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:52 AM
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For those interested the Strategic Planning committee slides are available on the DALPA website.

Lots of good info in it. If there are questions please post them here, call your reps or email/call a P2P rep.

Thanks.

https://dal.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...d=0&TabId=2593
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:54 AM
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Hey Professor, what's the official MEC Comm answer to scrubbing the Facebook page comments.
My 2cents: if you want to push your message on social media, it's pretty anti-social to delete input/responses. Adds to the perception that they have a problem with transparency.
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Walrus
Just curious. How would they investigate past sick usage?
There is no retroactive verifications required for sick in the TA.
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:54 AM
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Thank you!
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
There are 19 voting reps. 10 yes votes would send it to memrat in a senatorial vote (1 rep = 1 vote). Technically it could go to roll call (1 rep = the number of pilots he represents) but that is highly unlikely IMO.

No clue which reps are leaning which way.
I am hearing the contract is not going to be voted on by the pilots. I am a borderline no voter at the moment so that is ok. I hold no illusions however that the company will come back to the table. I suspect we will start over with a more traditional process.
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
There is no retroactive verifications required for sick in the TA.
Bad gouge?
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:58 AM
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Concessions....Dr. Seuss

Would you take concessions here and there?
Would you take them anywhere?

I would not could not here or there.
I would not take them anywhere

Would you could you with Vaseline?
Or with a beer?
Plus Dramamine?

I would not could not with Vaseline.
Nor with a beer.
And Dramamine.
I do not like concessions, Mike, you see.
Go back to the table.
Until then, leave me be.
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Old 06-10-2015 | 11:58 AM
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Statement:
5.74% of variable compensation converted to fixed compensation in the form of hourly pay rates, assuming the Company achieves PTIX of $6.0+ billion every year o This impact is reduced if PTIX is less than $6 billion

Please back me up on my napkin math...

Last year I earned a PS bonus at 16.58% on 4.5B

If I turn this into an equation we can find the %rate (x) earned per B$ profit:

2.5X + 2(4.5-2.5)X = 16.58

2.5X + 4X = 16.58
6.5X = 16.58
X = 2.55 %/B$

This is the rate that we earned last year per billion profit @10% return
With this TA we give up (6.0-2.5) = 3.5X = 8.9%

How does Alpa come up with 5.74%?
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Old 06-10-2015 | 12:06 PM
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Professor, In th sick part of the TA. It says 365 rolling look back for more than 15 days out sick for verification. So my understanding is compared to c2012 it doesn't look back to just the sick yr June 1st to jun 1st? It constantly looks back 365 days?
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