Details on Delta TA
06-12-2015 | 05:27 PM
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That is completely wrong Carl. It just is.
Again 1% is about four round trips.
Do you know how many seasonals we bring up and down every year? It's mid double digits.
Where precisely in this fleet plan do you see any aircraft that will be flown to Europe that is a down gauge?
No smaller aircraft in our fleet now or in the future can even do JFK to Europe.
Please use facts and numbers.
The TA binds the JV flying. Not the settlement.
Either way, this is the deal. Attempting to force compliance via numbers has not worked in five years. This gives us realistic goals we can hold the company to, quickly.
Please take notes and ask questions at the road shows.
Again 1% is about four round trips.
Do you know how many seasonals we bring up and down every year? It's mid double digits.
Where precisely in this fleet plan do you see any aircraft that will be flown to Europe that is a down gauge?
No smaller aircraft in our fleet now or in the future can even do JFK to Europe.
Please use facts and numbers.
The TA binds the JV flying. Not the settlement.
Either way, this is the deal. Attempting to force compliance via numbers has not worked in five years. This gives us realistic goals we can hold the company to, quickly.
Please take notes and ask questions at the road shows.
06-12-2015 | 05:30 PM
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Carl
06-12-2015 | 05:31 PM
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06-12-2015 | 05:32 PM
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Or we could be getting 30million every year.
All perspective I guess?
Once again, NOT trying to sell anyone here.
It's the language and the agreement as it stands.
Please go to your road shows. Please ask questions.
If I hear more/better info on this from the NC, I will inform all.
06-12-2015 | 05:34 PM
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Professor, the key points I see from your JV analysis are these: Delta is currently out of EASK compliance on the low end. After the change they'd be above the block hour minimum with room to reduce. That sure as heck sounds like a concession to me. If Delta corrected the EASK ratio as required what would the block hour ratio be then? I see where you're going with the downside protection angle but I'd need more data to be sold.
Denny
06-12-2015 | 05:38 PM
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That is completely wrong Carl. It just is.
Again 1% is about four round trips.
Do you know how many seasonals we bring up and down every year? It's mid double digits.
Where precisely in this fleet plan do you see any aircraft that will be flown to Europe that is a down gauge?
No smaller aircraft in our fleet now or in the future can even do JFK to Europe.
Please use facts and numbers.
The TA binds the JV flying. Not the settlement.
Either way, this is the deal. Attempting to force compliance via numbers has not worked in five years. This gives us realistic goals we can hold the company to, quickly.
Please take notes and ask questions at the road shows.
Again 1% is about four round trips.
Do you know how many seasonals we bring up and down every year? It's mid double digits.
Where precisely in this fleet plan do you see any aircraft that will be flown to Europe that is a down gauge?
No smaller aircraft in our fleet now or in the future can even do JFK to Europe.
Please use facts and numbers.
The TA binds the JV flying. Not the settlement.
Either way, this is the deal. Attempting to force compliance via numbers has not worked in five years. This gives us realistic goals we can hold the company to, quickly.
Please take notes and ask questions at the road shows.
Read the language...it's right there.
Carl
06-12-2015 | 05:46 PM
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Professor,
Could you explain this one when you get a chance?
1.E.9.
The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.
Where did that come from? And why?
Could you explain this one when you get a chance?
1.E.9.
The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.
Where did that come from? And why?
06-12-2015 | 05:46 PM
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06-12-2015 | 05:46 PM
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Professor,
Could you explain this one when you get a chance?
1.E.9.
The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.
Where did that come from? And why?
Could you explain this one when you get a chance?
1.E.9.
The Delta MEC Chairman may, at his option, approve the use by a carrier engaged in international partner flying of a trade name, brand, logo, trademarks, service marks, aircraft livery or aircraft paint scheme currently or in the future utilized by the Company or any Company affiliate.
Where did that come from? And why?
Question of the day.
I don't know. And it freaks me out.
I'll find out.
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