Concessions Are Coming
06-02-2016 | 07:53 AM
#182
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scope is a throw away item, your words
As for TVM, blah blah blah
We know where we stand, and have made a choice.
Also your words
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/de...ml#post2135649
scope is a throw away item, your words
As for TVM, blah blah blah
We know where we stand, and have made a choice.
Also your words
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/de...ml#post2135649
06-02-2016 | 07:56 AM
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What is the problem? I want steady pay increases without all this angst every 3-5 years, and I want to control my own retirement. Not that hard.
06-02-2016 | 08:02 AM
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you are shackled with the 'what can we give away mode' as the methodology to gaining improvements in the PWA.
I do not believe most of this pilot group is buying into that mentality any longer.
The re-opener is likely viewed by a large swath of this group as reasonable and 'adequate'......and I didn't detect any such giveaways from the existing terms in that document.
if anything materially less than the re-opener is tabled for vote.....it is not likely to be approved.
I do not believe most of this pilot group is buying into that mentality any longer.
The re-opener is likely viewed by a large swath of this group as reasonable and 'adequate'......and I didn't detect any such giveaways from the existing terms in that document.
if anything materially less than the re-opener is tabled for vote.....it is not likely to be approved.
06-02-2016 | 08:18 AM
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From: Cockpit speaker volume knob set to eleven.
06-02-2016 | 08:22 AM
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It will be our furloughed pilots flying them in place of mainline in the next downturn.
06-02-2016 | 10:26 AM
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Not sure what you are asking. What I am doing is evaluating the industry in a different way. It is not a boom/bust industry anymore. Well DAL anyway. When was the last time any airline had balance sheets like we have now? You have an example of the advantages right in front of you. Who has this board held up as the gold standard for years and years and years? How has that group gotten to where they are? Now, since DAL is printing money everyone wants to throw their method out the window and swing for the fences yet again. Boom/bust mentality all over. Let's do the same thing and get a different result. Works every time. Couldn't possibly be a different way to achieve our desired results. Nope.
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06-02-2016 | 11:05 AM
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And what's sad is that you can't see how the industry has changed. This isn't your father's airline industry anymore. Investment grade ratings and sustainable profits with good industrial margins. But let's keep thinking of it in the same old way and we will continue to wonder why we just lost both rooks. We can do better than restoration if we just open our eyes.
We will know its revolutionary when Scotty can beam you from Atl to Pvg.
All we have thats different is merged airlines exercising capacity discipline to control ticket prices vs seats. They are profitable, wildly, because they choose to be.
Do you know what scares the crap out of a GM engineer? Tesla.
The regional model is far from dead. Its just getting squeezed. Just as GMs model is far from dead.
06-02-2016 | 12:26 PM
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If a 737 captain makes the same as a 747 captain, what basis would there be to separate them in a merged seniority list?
It's an argument they would make and one that would be seriously considered by an arbitrator.
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