Squallrider

Union can say all they want, they have to be cost competitive. Don't get me wrong I hope you guys get every dollar you're worth but since the bonuses a lot has changed. When the bonuses at endeavor rolled out quite a few regionals were either in bankruptsy or close to it, there was a perceived shortage of pilots yet no one seems to have trouble filling classes today. Why would they pay endeavor pilots more than what delta can get somewhere else? You'll find the history of delta WO that wanted more than delta was willing to offer is not favorable for your argument. Or do you think the bonus was paid out of the goodness of their hearts? If you can't hire or shrinking there's something else wrong, putting a band aid of money won't fix it long term because people will leave because you can never pay them what even a LCC can long term. It's all basic math and basic management/ business economics.

FYI I don't work for a low paying regional, I made into the 6 figures whilst on reserve and we have a substantial bonus program that's been in place for years that at my longevity comes up to about 12k a year, it's a bonus for performance and financial results as well as profit sharing, all of which we accomplomish by being a profitable business that unsurprisingly doesn't have a hard time recruiting 80+ a month.

Flyguy4723

Hmmmmmm. That's interesting

DasSchwerin

What we have to offer isn't our cost competitiveness , it's our Mainline like reliability and customer service, which Delta has been willing to pay a premium for. Rolling the bonus into pay rates while being a little more expensive for the company due to 401k matching and the such, shouldn't have a huge impact on our cost competitiveness. Thats just my guess though.

Squak1200

First year pay is $6 below anyone elses, but like you said, take the whole package into account, retention bonus makes up for way more than $6. Now what happens after 2018, whether the retention bonus stays, whether it gets rolled into the pay rate, who knows. But isnt the volatile nature of this industry the only truth ?
I have close buddies in pretty much every regional, except Mesa. I know FO's in Envoy since 2011, still waiting on upgrades, I have a friend in Endeavor who upgraded 4 months ago in exactly 26 months, with zero part 121 time when he joined.
The comparison games never end, since as humans, like it or not, we are inherently biased. The unfortunate part is, inadvertently misleading new hires with incomplete pictures.

WesternSkies

Your PAs sir are exquisite. You land as if touching a pillow. Your 200 cabin is all first class.

Hahaha
Keep it up!

JesuitValen

Dude, Endeavor is paid a premium for 2 reasons.

One more than half of the pilot group had left or was leaving. The first time they threw some money at the problem it was interpretted by the pilot group as a small severance for our trouble, and the number of guys leaving increased (percentage of pilots leaving in an ever increasing non-linear line). The second program ($20 grand) stopped attrition. After LOA 71, which the company needed to speed up training to keep up with Delta's changing plans, we became the best paid.

The second is Delta screwing over every regional partner (from mesa to air whiskey), and making them 3rd rate next to united and Murican. Delta is a first rate group, but they expect the most and pay the least for regional feed, making them last for people you wanna contract for. When whiskey told delta to come pick up the 200s while endeavor was losing 60 (then 80 with no end in sight) a month, that causes Anderson to do what he did best, make an ego play as great expense at long as it increases customer service.

Student01

Which SkyWest base operates only for UAX? CRJ or E-Jet?

zondaracer

ORD E175 and DEN E175 are UAX only.

DEN CRJ is 99% UAX unless you do Aspen, then you'll do some Delta and American.

Things change though, but this is pretty much the current situation.

Snuffaluffagus

Dude do you even have your private yet?

HighFlight

It's got to be $25.56 an hour (current NH actually gets $63.33; a year ago it was $55.56) pay increase or people will start leaving, I would imagine. Anything less than $25.56 is a min guarantee pay cut, and an insult to the industry. I hope it doesn't come down to this.