Baradium

You seem to have a different understanding on what that means than everyone else does. Hiring internally doesn't mean they have to interview everyone who applies. They only have to consider the application. On top of that, depending on the corporate structure, it might not be considered internal anyway.

Mesabah

Who is everyone else, because there is a metering program in place with the SSP/DGI. Also, if you are a current employee, that is not an Endeavor pilot, you meet the minimum requires for a pilot position, and have been on property 5 years, you transfer to the pilot position without doing the pilot selection process. Recently, they lowered the minimum to a PPL, if you are willing to do a stent at Endeavor for a few years.

It would be almost a guarantee that if we didn't agree to the bankruptcy SSP, Delta would not have bought us. Also, if we were sold to TSA to merge with Compass, these programs would end immediately for new hires. However, the DGi is an agreement between Delta, and the individual, so it would likely be honored, unless there is an opt out clause like the flow.

Baradium

The industry as a whole.

ASA was a wholly owned for years and never had a guaranteed program.

While I agree Delta is assuredly going to honor the DGI, there is no legal obligation for them to have the program in the first place. In fact, I don't believe Delta Private Jets pilots have a guaranteed interview program themselves, and they are just a much employees as 9E pilots.

Mesabah

ASA, and Comair were involved in a legal dispute over scope/merger/RJDC etc. Delta private jet pilots are not associated with Delta or the wholly owned company, however, they do have a Delta interview program after 2 years. endeavor pilots are an actual sub-group of Delta, we are not Delta PWA seniority list pilots. Our relationship to you is the same as your mechanics/dispatchers. In fact, as soon as Delta is fully setup up for the MRO program, they will separate tech ops into a wholly-owned for legal/COI reasons.

Baradium

Before you get too worked up into explanations, I'm prior 9E. As far as sub-groups of delta go, I don't see how DPJ differs as they are a wholly owned subsidiary just like Endeavor. I believe that legal rights of each would be the same. And I still do not believe there is a legal requirement that every employee that wishes to apply for a position must be granted an interview before outside hiring, they just can't be restricted from applying.

As far as TechOps goes, there are mainline mechanics and DGS mechanics. TechOps already does engine work and a lot of outsourced maintenance for various entities. DGS is a catchall that has employees doing just about everything, the employees working Trainer refinery (the oil refinery in PA) are DGS. Even if they wanted to separate liability, it wouldn't require any major change at TechOps externally since in different areas there are already mainline and DGS mechanics working.

IPAsallday

This Guy/Gal gets it. Management has turned in the wrong direction since our new CEO and our staffing numbers are back up. Just talk to anyone with 5+ yrs here and they can tell you how bad this place could be. Not saying it’s that bad yet . . .

Punkah Louvre

I'm calling you out on this my friend. You are gainfully employed in your chosen field, in a job market that is at its best in 30 years.
That said, you must understand the airline industry is brutally competitive with massive fixed asset costs and risks reaching an absolute commodity status.
Your Customer Interactions, data collection, and arrival performance separate Delta (-thats how the customer sees us) from Spirit and Southwest et al. The vast majority of the traveling public travel less than once a year and are absolutely price sensitive. Our hold on the 15% odd of premium pax is what pays the bills and keeps us in shinny well maintained jets and salary paid on time.
A part of of our job is accepting the responsibility we have to the Brand; that's our economic reality. I for one- and just about everyone I know & fly with understands that. Its also what you'll likely be asked to demonstrate in an interview -for any carrier...
Best
PL

wiggy15

Stealing money from checks, firing people for sick calls, and having instructors failing you for forgetting one limitation is a far cry from asking us to promote a brand. This place continues to improve, and while some areas still need work, we have not regressed. At all. And these brand promotion tasks have been encouraged well before this new leadership team.

Yumyum

Yeah throw that sh!t away. You don’t work for Deltas

Air Stang 7

Hey, I like flying on the Deltas Jets a lot more than the Deltas Connections jets.