Silver02ex

The first wave of guys who were told to wait a year are are trying again now or shortly. If I recalled, DAL has told us that the year wait has been change to 6 months to retry

Farmlover

I love how people who don't work here are trashing this place the most. Move on people.

StraightShooter

Why would any pilot at Endeavor OPT out of an interview with Delta?

This blows my mind that it's not 100% participation in the SSP.

What am I missing? Do we really have people this ignorant in our profession??!!

higney85

I've been flying with the "senior" folks in Msp, many with 25+ years here. It seems that beyond about 55, they don't want to leave. I have yet to run across anyone younger who isn't trying to go. Guys who didn't get it the first time around were bummed out (can't blame em) but the ones I know have put back in for the second shot and been doing all they can to fix what they messed up.

The plan has always been 81 -900's. The exodus right now to other regionals will stop once folks realize that the movement is only to staff an FO seat. Run the math. If you arent in the first couple classes of a doubling fleet, you are an FO at year 1 pay.

But that's just my take. If folks want to leave its not my mission to talk them out of it. The idea of telling everyone to abandon ship makes no sense. My other viewpoint is this is the perfect situation for DL to see who actually wants to be at DL. There will be good times and bad. Right now it's good at DL and been rough here. I think we hit rock bottom this month with schedules and pay. Now there finally seems to be a movement to right the ship. Only time will tell if it works.

Hello Inspector

April 1, 2015

PCLCREW

Why does the biggest bonus check come in Sept 2015 and not Dec 2016?
Looks like keeping people until Sept 2015 is important.

higney85

Hire in Jan/Feb and guys will be online for 6 months, and through summer, before the payment. Makes complete sense. It's a 10-15K bonus for a new hire weighing options. It's known that for guys here who get a job at a major or LCC, they would leave. That was always the plan for movement coupled with the SSP. The fact that most would be CA's or FO's from the top of the list with the DL program being developed, it forms an opening for upgrades and upward movement. Add more money the first year and movement resuming and the loop completes for everyone and by 2017 (after bonuses) the cycle becomes self sustaining with the newest fleet at the current scope max with options for 30 in play once all the 717's arrive at DL.

It also entices those who aren't already gone to stay. With new hires the attrition will severely diminish in terms of lateral moves and upgrades begin.

At least that's the thought process that I have been told from both sides of the aisle. The key is new hires, as they drive the movement. The rush right now to get an upgrade via lateral will come to a crashing halt once folks realize that the CA's for the airlines with growth are already on property.

gloopy

That's an interesting take. I don't know if you're right or wrong, but either way you seem to have a great attitude about it.

Mesabah

It's CapEx, so it would be excluded in the rate reset. That's why it is being done as a bonus instead of JCBA improvements.

Pinchanickled

No, no, no, no. You guys are delirious and naive. There isn't a bright future here. If they tell the employees that at the end of September the operation will be terminated, people will quit now. So they give everyone a promise of money, that will all get spent before it arrives, and when the flight schedule is announced for October of 2015, it will reveal that the airline in operation of the CRJ-900's will be divided among all the other DCI Carriers.

Delta is removing the good pilots from the list with the SSP program, the EtD program is, was and always be a mirage in the desert. When the airline gets widdled down to the remaining lifers, then it's time to call it quits.

Keep your eye on Deltanet and see who will be operating the 900's in October. That gets announced about 6 months prior, so around April of 2015, we will know more specifically when the end actually is.

Then everyone living in a fantasy world that success is on the horizon for Endeavor, will be introduced to reality in a cold hard way.

Why would Delta want senior regional flunkee's as pilots when they could easily switch the 900's over to another regional with more junior pilots that have a cheaper cost? That's the same blue print for ComAir, and the same CEO. Endeavor is a staffing company. That's all. Each regional is a staffing company. That's the way it works. Just like large construction companies put each subcontractor against each other without any loyalty. The airline is run by the owners, the share holders. They have invested their money to make more money. They put pressure on the board of directors, who work for the shareholders. They want money, and could careless about your career progression.

Sorry to be so blunt, but reality hits you hard.