Originally Posted by JesuitValen

Beating? QOL sucks on reserve; most of this company ain't on reserve. This is like PBS, "which is more important, commute or home base? ... Ok you say home base but are you willing to sit reserve even if you could have 15-18 off in nyc?... You are? Ok yeah stay where you're at... So commuting is worse than reserve? Ok."



Reserve rules are expensive in a contract and every newhire FO is oblivious to reserve rules. That reserve rule is flushed down the toilet every time a fo does whatever scheduling says or begs them on the phone to use them.

Big picture, movement will continue and pilots on reserve will not be there long and the ones that will be on reserve will be a dwarfed minority. It isn't worth the cost to give reserve guys their christmas list when it costs the senior pilots their jcba rates.

Get senior guys their rates back, until the whole tree has regrown its roots we arent gonna be worried about which single branch gets the largest fruit. Let's face it senior guys won't leave, so the union has no leverage to get them anything. And if new hires arent attracted into class, there is no Endeavor.

You might make small gains, but Delta has no reason to pump more money in for pilots unless the classes are empty or close to it.

Finally, this is a regional, move on. Delta hates regionals even though theyre caressing your leg now it won't be for long.

Originally Posted by Yumyum

I see your point and it makes sense. This is a problem Endeavor and a few other regionals will be facing in the coming years. The regionals with a flow will have relief up top, and because of that it will create upgrades as well as new hires. We shall see....🤔

Originally Posted by Avroman

I've been hearing that bullshat for 12 years and I've been on reserve for over 10 of those (and looks like I will continue to be for the indefinite future unless they magically change the numbers of 17-01 with this delay)

Originally Posted by msprj2

Bid for ATL and your wish will be granted. You would be top 10% id bet.

Originally Posted by JesuitValen

Am i missing the sarcasm here? Have 5 of you agreed to start trolling us old timers with progressively sillier arguments until our heads explode?

Originally Posted by Avroman

And help keep overall longevity lower (just look at Compass). This is where Delta really dropped the ball the way they handled the SSP here.. By turning down a majority of captains that interviewed, they also turned away many more from even trying to interview in addition to those that were already lifers here. That just exacerbated the top heavy portion of our seniority list. Trying to run them off by shrinking MSP and DTW isn't going to work well.... That's just making things worse.

Originally Posted by Urbandrone

I've worked for lousy pay with poor working conditions, this is not one. You came here and there was no "path" to mineline, well beside hard work and dedication, put on your big boy pants and live with your choices. I like what this airline offers me don't ruin a good thing.

Originally Posted by Avroman

I've been hearing that bullshat for 12 years and I've been on reserve for over 10 of those (and looks like I will continue to be for the indefinite future unless they magically change the numbers of 17-01 with this delay)

Originally Posted by jethikoki

This is an industry wide problem for/at the regionals. Regionals were never ment to be as large but buy the greed of mainline pilots and lower costs to management it was allowed. Then factor in limited hiring at mainlines over the years and what hiring was done much of which outside of the regionals you end up with more senior so called lifers.