The bonus withholding is neither outstandingly good nor remarkably bad. It is 25%, the rate set by the IRS. If your current tax rate is lower, you get the difference back at the end of the year. If it is higher than 25%, you will end up paying more. It's that simple.

Either way, the $83 per hour proposal is a pay cut using the 75 hour model we base our months on. But if you consider how much you'll make in open time, as well as 401K company contributions, it isn't all that terrible, actually.

 

...and then all those people earning 150-200% will get that time at the lower rate because they were squabbling over $2 an hour.

 

Patient? As if we were in control.....three years from now we will be giving way to the C-series in NYC and Delta will be downsizing Endeavor....Delta isn't going to bargain with us....its take it or leave it...the bonus is their best option and I don't think you will see a pay integration......this way they can pull the plug on the bonus like a kill switch and watch endeavor self destruct....history repeats itself and the industry is changing....the 900
Base in ATL with a few more 900's coming on property is good an all but it's just smoke and mirrors....prospective pilots think they see growth......there are better options out there with career progression. I hope I'm wrong about this but it's what I've been hearing through the grapevine.

 

unfortunately what you say makes total sense

 

Can we all agree there is more to compensation than just pay rates? Or do you all want to use crummy pilot math to jump over a quarter to pick up a dime?

 

Thank you, there's a much bigger picture going on here. I am sick and tired of only having really one sick call per year, unless I want to take a hit on my pay. How about how terrible our vacation is. The list goes on

 

Ugh, this is starting to remind me of the Pinnacle negotiations before the merger

 

This makes no sense. Delta isn't adding 100 additional aircraft its replacing aircraft. Yes they are taking some 900 routes, but Compass and Go-Jets are much worse off than us. History repeating itself, is the Regional Pilot accepting the crap that's always thrown at them.
This is the best Position our pilot group has ever been in and you're still thinking the worst for us. REALLY?? What smoke and mirrors? We have actually added Aircraft, Bases and hundreds of Pilots.
I don't get it.... It's this attitude that has accepted Crap for the past 20 years. It's time to ask first for what we are worth. If you want career progression go to the one Regional that has a flow and is a 7 year wait. Let the bonus expire. If you want a raise ask.
If you want career progression, update your apps and improve your resume. Or go to Go-Jets and flow to Spirit.

 

I agree. Regional lift is too cost competitive to get rid of. Our group whines when we scale up NYC and now when it looks like we finally have growth and movement from NYC to elsewhere due to Cseries, we complain about that. Rjs will be reduced but not go away. Consolidation is happening already and it wasn't us that got folded. We're well paid with good schedules and a positive future. Sky isn't falling.

 

Can we rename this thread to "Endeavor Air, where misery wants to find some company"?