Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
12-15-2015, 01:48 PM
#1762
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Originally Posted by Yumyum
Vilcos and Batol. Just curious what your DOH and original airline was prior to merger. Please respond just curious.
Yes this is concessionary, and it's been concessionary since the pilot group voted in the turd contract.
Yes this is concessionary, and it's been concessionary since the pilot group voted in the turd contract.
Doesn't matter. If you feel like you got a raw deal, you know where the door is and virtually everybody is hiring. It is what it is. Move forward, look forward, and be assertive.
But fine, I'll play, despite the fact that I'm breaking my own rule. XJ fall 07. Now bring on the "see, I told you" 's.
Ok, but what's yours?
12-15-2015, 02:28 PM
#1763
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Position: LR-35 FO
Posts: 41
Anyone know if the Commuting policy is also improving via the proposed TA, company sponsored hotels specifically? Also which air frame are the new guys getting, the 200? Anybody commuting from South Florida? Is JFK or LGA junior?
12-15-2015, 02:46 PM
#1764
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Position: CaptFo
Posts: 997
[QUOTE=BATOL;2028173]Doesn't matter. If you feel like you got a raw deal, you know where the door is and virtually everybody is hiring. It is what it is. Move forward, look forward, and be assertive.
But fine, I'll play, despite the fact that I'm breaking my own rule. XJ fall 07. Now bring on the "see, I told you" 's.
Ok, but what's yours?[/QUOT
Thats surprising...so you have a CJO at Delta. That's great and congrats!
I haven't been negative 100%, But I do have an opinion, and the right to vote. "Reserve is a temporary position"....well not at Endeavor..as a matter of fact reserve has been 80-90% of my career. So when I hear crap like growth blah blah blah..the facts are the facts. I live my life based on real time, and experience....not maybe, and we might.
It is my opinion, that this TA doesn't represent the entire pilot group. You have yours, and I have mine.
But fine, I'll play, despite the fact that I'm breaking my own rule. XJ fall 07. Now bring on the "see, I told you" 's.
Ok, but what's yours?[/QUOT
Thats surprising...so you have a CJO at Delta. That's great and congrats!
I haven't been negative 100%, But I do have an opinion, and the right to vote. "Reserve is a temporary position"....well not at Endeavor..as a matter of fact reserve has been 80-90% of my career. So when I hear crap like growth blah blah blah..the facts are the facts. I live my life based on real time, and experience....not maybe, and we might.
It is my opinion, that this TA doesn't represent the entire pilot group. You have yours, and I have mine.
12-15-2015, 02:47 PM
#1765
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Position: CaptFo
Posts: 997
Originally Posted by BATOL
Doesn't matter. If you feel like you got a raw deal, you know where the door is and virtually everybody is hiring. It is what it is. Move forward, look forward, and be assertive.
But fine, I'll play, despite the fact that I'm breaking my own rule. XJ fall 07. Now bring on the "see, I told you" 's.
Ok, but what's yours?
But fine, I'll play, despite the fact that I'm breaking my own rule. XJ fall 07. Now bring on the "see, I told you" 's.
Ok, but what's yours?
12-15-2015, 06:52 PM
#1769
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Posts: 8,898
Originally Posted by vilcas
For those on the outside looking in I am pleased to report that people like this are in the minority. This point of view is the unfortunate byproduct of a terrible time in the airline industry exacerbated by manipulative management. This deal is a departure from those bad times. This deal takes us forward, maybe not as fast as we would like but it is in the right direction.
When it comes to resentment learn to deal with this and move on. I have heard Delta Air Lines is looking to see if you are deeply resentful during interview. The signs of which will most likely lead to them passing on your services.
On a different not the $39 per hour FO doesn't need a hike in pay just an upgrade. This package helps get bodies in the door. Bodies in the door helps aircraft come back from the desert. Aircraft coming back from the desert need captains. Those captains will be first officers who want to upgrade. The first officer upgrading will go from $39 per hour to something north of $70 depending on longevity. This $31 bump in pay will far exceed a increase in bonus to new hires. Growth is good and if this means upping bonus for new hires then I say "UP BONUS FOR NEW HIRES."
When it comes to resentment learn to deal with this and move on. I have heard Delta Air Lines is looking to see if you are deeply resentful during interview. The signs of which will most likely lead to them passing on your services.
On a different not the $39 per hour FO doesn't need a hike in pay just an upgrade. This package helps get bodies in the door. Bodies in the door helps aircraft come back from the desert. Aircraft coming back from the desert need captains. Those captains will be first officers who want to upgrade. The first officer upgrading will go from $39 per hour to something north of $70 depending on longevity. This $31 bump in pay will far exceed a increase in bonus to new hires. Growth is good and if this means upping bonus for new hires then I say "UP BONUS FOR NEW HIRES."
12-15-2015, 07:05 PM
#1770
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
So you're saying take this and live to fight another day. Quite a change from the 2007 "**** new FOs" mantra by 9E ALPA for the payraise LOA they turned down. And your theory all falls apart when there are no upgrades. Then they are still stuck at $39/hr and that is a problem. You can't control when planes come and go, but you can control your payrate you have while all that crap happens.
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