Five93H

Perfect. If you don't get NYC right off the bat, you should be able to switch bases on the next available vacancy.

StrangeBrew

Great! I really appreciate the info!

Yumyum

It's a bad deal because it doesn't benefit the ENTIRE PILOT GROUP. Tell me how it does ? Why should we give a rats arse about first year pay? That's has absolutely zero weight. ALPA keeps forgetting about the ten year pilots that are still on reserve. The reserve enhancements are irrelevant. Reserve thresholds continue to be outrageous, ready reserve is still the biggest waste of time. This new TA hits all the senior pilots that are still on reserve right in the nsack.

Yumyum

Also since when do you make your decision on where to work based on first year pay? Talk about opposite from the legacy mindset.

block30

That IS a big deal for some people. I spoke with someone who made their decision to come to Endeavor based on the 20k bonus money making the first year pay bearable vs. other alternatives. Some people cannot or will not accept literal poverty wages to make the jump to a regional anymore. They WILL find other places to work instead of a taking a hit in the wallet and/ or starting a war at home.

I don't think the TA has enough in it to get people to come to Endeavor if they were leaning elsewhere though. And I thought that staffing was a major driver for the TA, not so much the 15 minutes.

PapaMike

30.00 an hour to start plus 3-10k in completion of training bonus, plus 20k in retention for a first year FO. Could anyone have imagined such a thing 18 months ago?

That is potentially 60 grand for a new hire at a regional. Until recently you couldn't even expect that at a major carrier.

Year two is 35 per hour plus 23 in retention. With the soft pay credits in this TA and the rest of the JCBA that will be over 60 grand for the year.

Then they upgrade to 90+ a year not accounting for any other gains over the next 3 years.

150% for all credit over 85 when you enable max line range and 150% for all pick ups coupled with there being more available trips to add from going forward.

The ability to effectively bid P2 reserve and not have to commute in until around noon on day one.

7 hours extra credit per week of vacation. Senior pilots equate to 21-28 extra hours of pay for the year. Call it a 2-3% gain

DHD pay won't amount to much but it's still probably a percent or two gain.

Sure, we all would love to make a million a year but you have to be somewhat reasonable. The worst thing that could happen is this doesn't do the trick of getting enough people in the door and they have to go back to the table and add to it.

Be realistic and understand that most new pilots hired won't see more than 5 years at the company. If you want to attract them why in the world would you focus your efforts specifically at anything above 5 years? Even with that said this appears to be a win for everyone on property.

ShyGuy

Nantonaku

Does the TA make reserve levels worse? It isn't clear whether that is the case or not. I agree with most of what you are saying but basically the whole group is getting the major benefits from this deal - the 3K and the extra 21 hours of vacation pay per year. I'm not sure if that is worth the extra 15 minutes but it is a fairly substantial raise for most people. No doubt about it, the ready reserve rules are a joke - it doesn't appear any capital was spent in trying to improve reserve life.

higney85

The reserve levels are now capped by %.... Previously there was no cap.

JonGalt

For CNO lines, if you are awarded a P3 reserve on the last day are you auto released or do they move you to contact period? I read that you can't be on P3 on the last day.