Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
01-14-2018 | 02:12 PM
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when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ?
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ?
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit ?
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ?
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)?
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
01-14-2018 | 03:32 PM
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thanks again for previous answers. its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority and start over at another airline. I don't think it will be all sunshine and roses at 9E but the following questions might give some more insight...
when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ? door closed and brake released
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?it is up to you. I check and find a mistake every other month or so in Rain maker, but if the mistakes make or break your finances, you need to fix your finances. The company is not trying to make mistakes, or short you pay.
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ? see above, I always check to make sure Premium Pay is coded correctly, and that is generally where the mistake is found
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit?
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ? we have a 4 hour min day, every day you work is 4 hours of pay minimum
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)? trades/drops/adds are first come first served, trades between pilots are allowed assuming it doesn't get some one in FAR117 trouble. Dropping is hard to do, but possible
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ? door closed and brake released
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?it is up to you. I check and find a mistake every other month or so in Rain maker, but if the mistakes make or break your finances, you need to fix your finances. The company is not trying to make mistakes, or short you pay.
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ? see above, I always check to make sure Premium Pay is coded correctly, and that is generally where the mistake is found
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit?
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ? we have a 4 hour min day, every day you work is 4 hours of pay minimum
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)? trades/drops/adds are first come first served, trades between pilots are allowed assuming it doesn't get some one in FAR117 trouble. Dropping is hard to do, but possible
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
see above in the quote
01-14-2018 | 03:33 PM
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Here ya go...
thanks again for previous answers. its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority and start over at another airline. I don't think it will be all sunshine and roses at 9E but the following questions might give some more insight...
when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ?Door close
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?I only check if I pick up flying to verify P15/P20
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ?What is a holiday? We don’t have those here. If pay is off, say they forget to credit you a P20 for a day trip, you can make a note in Rainmaker (pay software), save it, and they will address it. If that dosen’t fix it (always has for me), you can always call them.
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?Have never caught an error more than a month after, so not sure. Never been screwed out of pay to my knowledge.
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit ?You get what you bid for if your seniority can hold it. I bid for 3 5-day trips usually, and have been able to get them after about 6 months here. Top might get 18-20 days off, you you probably won’t get 90 hours doing that. There is a way to bid for over 85 hours, and if you get it, it gets paid at 150%
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ?No RIGs. 4 hour min day, 5 if you get a 5-day trip. Some trips are as low as 12 hours in 4 days. The goal seems to be right around 4 hours per day. DH & CXL are both at 150%.
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)?No SAP here. Dropping a trip can be hard, the way they run the reserve requirements. But putting it on the trade board and someone else picking it up is pretty easy to manage.
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ?Door close
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?I only check if I pick up flying to verify P15/P20
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ?What is a holiday? We don’t have those here. If pay is off, say they forget to credit you a P20 for a day trip, you can make a note in Rainmaker (pay software), save it, and they will address it. If that dosen’t fix it (always has for me), you can always call them.
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?Have never caught an error more than a month after, so not sure. Never been screwed out of pay to my knowledge.
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit ?You get what you bid for if your seniority can hold it. I bid for 3 5-day trips usually, and have been able to get them after about 6 months here. Top might get 18-20 days off, you you probably won’t get 90 hours doing that. There is a way to bid for over 85 hours, and if you get it, it gets paid at 150%
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ?No RIGs. 4 hour min day, 5 if you get a 5-day trip. Some trips are as low as 12 hours in 4 days. The goal seems to be right around 4 hours per day. DH & CXL are both at 150%.
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)?No SAP here. Dropping a trip can be hard, the way they run the reserve requirements. But putting it on the trade board and someone else picking it up is pretty easy to manage.
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
01-14-2018 | 03:59 PM
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thanks again for previous answers. its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority and start over at another airline. I don't think it will be all sunshine and roses at 9E but the following questions might give some more insight...
when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ?
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ?
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit ?
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ?
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)?
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
when does pay start at 9E ? door closed or wheel movement ?
do you need to carefully audit your paycheck every pay period ?
do you need to submit pay claims for overtime, holiday, etc etc ?
if you find an error in pay beyond XX days time are you forever screwed out of that pay ?
never used PBS how is it overall for bottom middle and top 1/3 ? is it like I've heard top 1/3 gets 18 days off a month and 90 credit and bottom 2/3 gets 11 days off and 80 hours credit ?
trips commutable? avg day credit ? ya'll have min day or trip/duty rigs ?
what mechanisms are in place if you want to trade out of a trip or just plain drop a trip? (we have schedule adjustment, seniority based and first come first serve...) how often are you able to actually trade (need green days I assume?)?
reading through the last few pages doesn't seem hotels/schedulers are much better
appreciate any feed back, like said its not an easy decision to give up earned seniority...
Looking at the union email: the company will pay all of our door issues through their own audit. All of them, since May.
I pick up a couple days each month. One of the volunteering pilots told me rainmaker is always wrong, i attack it like it's wrong, and i find a little extra money every month. Crew scheduling codes the trips wrong and it's not always FLICAs fault. I ask for help and I got a lot of it. Im not as good as the grievance guys but theres lots of help if you watch ask.
01-14-2018 | 05:49 PM
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So frustrating. I am the only one that gave no effs. Delayed deadhead, which caused a misconnect so I just booked it home and took my chances. To now, I still have no notifications or schedule modifications and that trip ended yesterday. All I care is that rainmaker is accurate and it is.
01-15-2018 | 05:15 AM
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You get a call back instead of walking around with speaker on or phone glued to your ear and the call-taker does not see any difference since the software handles the callback when you are the next in line for service!
Just say'in!
01-15-2018 | 05:29 AM
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There are so many call centers that after informing you the number of callers ahead and estimated wait time, offer you an opportunity to be called back based on your queue position. It does not seem like a stretch to have them turn on such a feature for more than 5 in queue or wait time > 30 min...
You get a call back instead of walking around with speaker on or phone glued to your ear and the call-taker does not see any difference since the software handles the callback when you are the next in line for service!
Just say'in!
You get a call back instead of walking around with speaker on or phone glued to your ear and the call-taker does not see any difference since the software handles the callback when you are the next in line for service!
Just say'in!
01-15-2018 | 05:33 AM
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thanks for the replies much appreciated !
I reckon the only things left to ask are -
cancellation pay leg by leg ?
displacement rules ?
thanks
PS - I never thought pay was intentionally trying to screw me but there are enough mistakes often enough that like I said you need to carefully scrutinize every pay check, not just a cursory "that looks right, got my preem"
I reckon the only things left to ask are -
cancellation pay leg by leg ?
displacement rules ?
thanks
PS - I never thought pay was intentionally trying to screw me but there are enough mistakes often enough that like I said you need to carefully scrutinize every pay check, not just a cursory "that looks right, got my preem"
01-15-2018 | 05:52 AM
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Cancellation leg by leg... Yes.
Displacement rules... Not really sure but maybe someone getting displaced right now can clear that up.
Btw, as far as commutability (asked earlier) our 4 day trips are today commutable on one end. And our 5 day trips are almost always commutable on both ends depending where you're coming from. 4 and 5 days make up over half of all trips. Like was said, 5 days are rigged to 25 hours.
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Displacement rules... Not really sure but maybe someone getting displaced right now can clear that up.
Btw, as far as commutability (asked earlier) our 4 day trips are today commutable on one end. And our 5 day trips are almost always commutable on both ends depending where you're coming from. 4 and 5 days make up over half of all trips. Like was said, 5 days are rigged to 25 hours.
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