Meow1215

I wonder why they don’t make a program like that for their existing DCI carriers?

ninerdriver

Any word on when the next vacancy bid hits? Today? Next week?

GuardPolice

It exists in the form of the DGI or guaranteed application review. Everyone currently at a DCI carrier has a 3+ year career head start on the Propel pilots. Again, nothing is 100% guaranteed for the Propel pilots just like those current programs for the DCI pilots.



GP

DeltaCorrectons

I’m going to throw the bull****** flag. Delta would be stupid to try to pull something like that when looking at the number of retirements that American has coming up knowing American would turn around and be able to drain every DCI carrier or captains in a single year if they felt like it.

TalkTurkey

Yea because the legacy carriers are having trouble staff their planes, right? Congrats on posting some of the dumbest stuff ever.

Rotor2prop

I’m just passing along what I know. I will say I heard this straight out of the mouth of someone who sits in one of the big corner offices at Delta. Of course this is something that would never be more than rumor because of the obvious reasons. Delta is already hiring more AA WOs than AA is off the street especially PSA.

Rotor2prop

I nor anyone else said the legacy carriers were or will have staffing issues. They likely never will but good strategy is the key to successful business. I don’t think it’s “the dumbest stuff ever” by any means! It’s a way to slow DCI depletion and slightly weaken AAs feed and mainline flows causing a double edged sword of financial cost. Just a very slight increase in hiring targeting a few people from each WO AA regional costs AA a lot overall. Regional recruiting costs, training cycles, and higher wages to retain regional pilots until their flow date plus increased ots recruiting and HR positions at mainline. Sounds pretty expensive to me. You have to understand that at the level of management that makes these strategies they don’t have the human aspect of the business as a priority it’s all numbers!

We see in these threads every week about how Delta can’t make their mind up or keep DCI management quite and seemingly disengaged from employees. Do you think they really don’t know how to make decisions? No! It’s just Deltas strategy nothing less! I can say without a shred of doubt that that’s how they do business and it’s not a “ the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing” thing at all. I mean look at the lines of BS they have fed Endeavor about growth. Are they lying about what’s coming to you there? Possibly but highly unlikely! They are making a bit of planned instability to keep you on edge and humble so no one ends up “Comaired” with them looking like the heros!

MuPpET

Whoa! I never thought about this but you're absolutely right!!! Delta's complex masterpiece strategy to beat AA revealed here for all to see and the best part, there's nothing AA can do to stop it! Unless maybe, just maybe they have people there with IQs that rival yours and will sniff this plan out, but it seems so complicated on the surface that I doubt they can. This could be the final deathblow for AA.

gloopy

It probably will but not because of this. Its a zero sum game and this has been an on and off again thing for decades. In the grand scheme of things nothing will change and no airline will harm any other to any significant extent. Hiring LCC pilots OTOH very well may...

Rotor2prop

Wow! Your reply is a classic example of why no one on APC can discuss anything or share opinions civilly! Congratulations! There is no “master plan” it’s just one part of a simple business strategy. I don’t know where you got the idea “This could be the final death blow to AA” that’s just silly! A strategy like this is just applying a squeeze to AA the same way they do by competing for market share in high yield markets.