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Old 02-20-2020, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecv View Post
Quick question for you guys,

I'm looking into 'cadet' programs while I continue working as a CFI. Does Endeavor have a program for CFI's? I work at a 141 flight school, but it is not one of the STEP schools. My long term goal is to fly for Delta, so what are my options (if any) for a regional and is there anything I can do now as a CFI to better my chances for Delta?
We’re Endeavor pilots, man, why would we know anything about going to Delta?
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Old 02-20-2020, 05:52 AM
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We’re Endeavor pilots, man, why would we know anything about going to Delta?
Now if he asked about being turned down by Delta... That we can offer suggestions about! At least the 50% of interviewees from here to Delta can!
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Old 02-20-2020, 08:48 AM
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Quick question for you guys,

I'm looking into 'cadet' programs while I continue working as a CFI. Does Endeavor have a program for CFI's? I work at a 141 flight school, but it is not one of the STEP schools. My long term goal is to fly for Delta, so what are my options (if any) for a regional and is there anything I can do now as a CFI to better my chances for Delta?
For a helpful answer.... Sorry about some others on here. To answer your question, no endeavor does not have any programs for non-step schools. But the benefits of step are really more for getting to endeavor, not Delta. They'll interview step applicants 12 months out, but everyone else 6 months out.

The biggest thing you can probably do right now is avoid check ride failures and do as much community service as you can fit in. They're huge on on it, and the more you do the better. I know FO's who've gone straight to Delta in part because they had thousands of hours of community service. Clean driving record, no criminal history, if you're still in college get that gpa up, and get a CFI if you can. You need a 4 year degree for sure, so make sure to finish it now while you're young.

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Old 02-20-2020, 08:50 AM
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Gold star and a smiley face for the guys and gals working 5275 ATL/TYS today. Full up. DAL/FA (In Purple) took the jump seat. I got on! Without the cooperation of the folks, my wrinkly butt would still be in ATL. Good job Niners!
As a commuter glad it worked out. I got left at the gate by a DL captain a few months ago who didn't want to take a delay to get me on. That sucked. But more often than not that's not the case.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:14 AM
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As a commuter glad it worked out. I got left at the gate by a DL captain a few months ago who didn't want to take a delay to get me on. That sucked. But more often than not that's not the case.
I had a gate agent who asked a delta pilot if he’d take the FA jumpseat to get me on. He looked me dead in the eye and said no, turned and walked down the jetway. Must have been my progression lanyard.
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Old 02-20-2020, 10:47 AM
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I had a gate agent who asked a delta pilot if he’d take the FA jumpseat to get me on. He looked me dead in the eye and said no, turned and walked down the jetway. Must have been my progression lanyard.
Yea that's unreal. 99% of my experiences have been good. But that's just wrong
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I had a gate agent who asked a delta pilot if he’d take the FA jumpseat to get me on. He looked me dead in the eye and said no, turned and walked down the jetway. Must have been my progression lanyard.
Im at delta now so weve got some tools online to help you see what ur up against on commuting. Right now between ATL and NYC there are 130 commuters, 90 and 40 is split. Ive had experience commuting through both for a variety of reasons so i feel comfortable speaking as a commuter from edv and dl. One guy in eight years of commuting wouldnt take the jumpseat was very open about it, for the last year before retirement he said he would not take an FA jumpseat again. Hes retired now. When i worked at edv there were more pilots than i can possibly count or remember who took FA jumpseats to get me on, or would say "no put him on ive got a later show". One guy, now retired out of more than 100. Say there two. Still below 5%. Dont make a mistake letting a couple bad experiences color your picture of these pilots.
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Im at delta now so weve got some tools online to help you see what ur up against on commuting. Right now between ATL and NYC there are 130 commuters, 90 and 40 is split. Ive had experience commuting through both for a variety of reasons so i feel comfortable speaking as a commuter from edv and dl. One guy in eight years of commuting wouldnt take the jumpseat was very open about it, for the last year before retirement he said he would not take an FA jumpseat again. Hes retired now. When i worked at edv there were more pilots than i can possibly count or remember who took FA jumpseats to get me on, or would say "no put him on ive got a later show". One guy, now retired out of more than 100. Say there two. Still below 5%. Dont make a mistake letting a couple bad experiences color your picture of these pilots.
That hasn’t.
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Old 02-20-2020, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown View Post
Im at delta now so weve got some tools online to help you see what ur up against on commuting. Right now between ATL and NYC there are 130 commuters, 90 and 40 is split. Ive had experience commuting through both for a variety of reasons so i feel comfortable speaking as a commuter from edv and dl. One guy in eight years of commuting wouldnt take the jumpseat was very open about it, for the last year before retirement he said he would not take an FA jumpseat again. Hes retired now. When i worked at edv there were more pilots than i can possibly count or remember who took FA jumpseats to get me on, or would say "no put him on ive got a later show". One guy, now retired out of more than 100. Say there two. Still below 5%. Dont make a mistake letting a couple bad experiences color your picture of these pilots.
My take on JS.

Old Westies are the best!

Pre-merger DL? Not so much

Everyone since the merger? fifty fifty
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I had a gate agent who asked a delta pilot if he’d take the FA jumpseat to get me on. He looked me dead in the eye and said no, turned and walked down the jetway. Must have been my progression lanyard.
This has happened to me more than once in ATL, the last being a 4 foot 11 captain wearing a FLIGHT STANDARDS lanyard and his shirt completely untucked...I asked if this 73 had FA jumpseats, he calmly states "I didnt check" and off he goes...gate agent gives a shoulder shrug.
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