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Old 09-11-2020, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles View Post
BLM*

*Only when killed by a white police officer.
Exactly - never mind the literal 1,000s per year killed in multitudes of homicides. But if a white cop (who shouldn’t have had a badge to begin with) does it then the other 700,000 LEOs and the core principle of law and order is at fault too. Therefore rioting and/or civil unrest (or peaceful protests as some call it) is “understandable” as it is at the breaking point since kneeling didn’t work. So it is all condoned and approved. Ridiculous!
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Guy made some good points, but it's all anecdotal in that he does a one to one comparison. If he chose 20 black men that got shot and 20 white men that got shot that doesn't mean you stand an equal chance of getting shot. I go by statistics and data. And there is a plethora of it.

"....The results provide evidence of a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being {black, unarmed, and shot by police} is about 3.49 times the probability of being {white, unarmed, and shot by police} on average. Furthermore, the results of multi-level modeling show that there exists significant heterogeneity across counties in the extent of racial bias in police shootings, with some counties showing relative risk ratios of 20 to 1 or more. Finally, analysis of police shooting data as a function of county-level predictors suggests that racial bias in police shootings is most likely to emerge in police departments in larger metropolitan counties with low median incomes and a sizable portion of black residents, especially when there is high financial inequality in that county."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4634878/
I wish I had your eloquence and writing abilities. That's on me for not taking advantage of my English in school. Anyway I am interested in what you say which is not meant to be argumentative or opposing but genuine interest. Would you mind commenting on this:
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/660045331530051/
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Old 09-12-2020, 05:58 AM
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I wish I had your eloquence and writing abilities. That's on me for not taking advantage of my English in school. Anyway I am interested in what you say which is not meant to be argumentative or opposing but genuine interest. Would you mind commenting on this:
https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/660045331530051/
I never said things weren't better. And in 40 years they'll be better than I are now. I know it takes time. It also takes movements. Larry and condoleezza (who are both very very conservative pundits) are right, that we've come a long way since the 60's. However they are both very good at deflecting. They both argue that because things are better than I were, there are no more problems. They love to say that because one of the problems is X that Y isn't legitimate. How we got here is way more complicated than these two make it out to be.

Things are better now BECAUSE of the civil rights movement. People thought they were terrorists and anarchists and socialists and communists then too. But their sacrifice and dedication is why we are where we are at today.

People love to talk about going back to the 90's or early 00's when we "didn't have these problems". They existed then too, but we lacked the ability to easily organise and share our experiences like we have now with the internet and social media.

We still have a lot of work to do, and it starts with not taking our foot off the gas. Just like in politics, the media amplifies the loudest voices and often times those people don't speak for me. Listen to the message not the messenger.
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:02 AM
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don't let this man distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
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Old 09-12-2020, 09:22 AM
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don't let this man distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
Whenever we played wrestlemania on nintendo I always picked undertaker. Dude was the best.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz View Post
don't let this man distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
“As god as my witness, he is broken in half.” Jim Ross, man those were the days
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Old 09-12-2020, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Casualinterest View Post
I never said things weren't better. And in 40 years they'll be better than I are now. I know it takes time. It also takes movements. Larry and condoleezza (who are both very very conservative pundits) are right, that we've come a long way since the 60's. However they are both very good at deflecting. They both argue that because things are better than I were, there are no more problems. They love to say that because one of the problems is X that Y isn't legitimate. How we got here is way more complicated than these two make it out to be.

Things are better now BECAUSE of the civil rights movement. People thought they were terrorists and anarchists and socialists and communists then too. But their sacrifice and dedication is why we are where we are at today.

People love to talk about going back to the 90's or early 00's when we "didn't have these problems". They existed then too, but we lacked the ability to easily organise and share our experiences like we have now with the internet and social media.

We still have a lot of work to do, and it starts with not taking our foot off the gas. Just like in politics, the media amplifies the loudest voices and often times those people don't speak for me. Listen to the message not the messenger.




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Old 09-13-2020, 12:12 AM
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Seems like a Bad combination of John Oliver with a pilots license and a inept high school social studies teacher. The 60s were awesome man, free love, light up a doobie, tear down the evil capitalist system man. Back then there were prevalent, real racist with real lynching, firehoses, and discrimination. Today, not so much. We are blessed with a large group that idolizes criminals in popular culture, commits crimes, and then cry foul as victims of racism. Modern racism seen today? Jusee smolett, bubba whatshisface, and Kappernick, are the poster children of this modern day racism and in two of those cases ”lynchings”. But the white supremacists and KKK you cry. Yeah not quite seeing roving bands of clan members in hoods stringing people up because of the color of their skin. Does racism exist today, of course! Is Widespread enough to legitimately declare it a public heath crisis? Not so much.
To end this discussion, you approach of “educating” people through petty statements of “ well did you personally talk with BLM supporters or MLK Jr, yeah, then how would you know” does not a productive discussion make, nor, your views more valid than others. But ‘‘tis a free country so we await your next manifesto.
Get out of the airport terminal sometime. That CNN we are all force fed rots your brain.

On a different note, sounds like some AA flight attendants are asking why not with Blue Lives Matter pins. Hopefully, they will allow them, or, better yet, all these airlines ditch all political accouterments and we all get back to work.
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Old 09-13-2020, 05:16 AM
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Seems like a Bad combination of John Oliver with a pilots license and a inept high school social studies teacher. The 60s were awesome man, free love, light up a doobie, tear down the evil capitalist system man. Back then there were prevalent, real racist with real lynching, firehoses, and discrimination. Today, not so much. We are blessed with a large group that idolizes criminals in popular culture, commits crimes, and then cry foul as victims of racism. Modern racism seen today? Jusee smolett, bubba whatshisface, and Kappernick, are the poster children of this modern day racism and in two of those cases ”lynchings”. But the white supremacists and KKK you cry. Yeah not quite seeing roving bands of clan members in hoods stringing people up because of the color of their skin. Does racism exist today, of course! Is Widespread enough to legitimately declare it a public heath crisis? Not so much.
To end this discussion, you approach of “educating” people through petty statements of “ well did you personally talk with BLM supporters or MLK Jr, yeah, then how would you know” does not a productive discussion make, nor, your views more valid than others. But ‘‘tis a free country so we await your next manifesto.
Get out of the airport terminal sometime. That CNN we are all force fed rots your brain.

On a different note, sounds like some AA flight attendants are asking why not with Blue Lives Matter pins. Hopefully, they will allow them, or, better yet, all these airlines ditch all political accouterments and we all get back to work.
It's funny how I answer all your questions but you never answer mine. Like I said, it's the tool of the deflectors. Answer a question with a question. It's what you do when you don't have answers
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Old 09-13-2020, 06:43 AM
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It's funny how I answer all your questions but you never answer mine. Like I said, it's the tool of the deflectors. Answer a question with a question. It's what you do when you don't have answers
What is your goal what is it you want? Obviously any normal person wants equality for everyone and an end to racism. Although that is an ultimate preferred end or result but in the more immediate is it you want everyone to give blanket support of BLM regardless and no question?
If you don't mind to watch another video from Jordan Peterson. Although it pertains to gender inequality it can have aspects of racism. The reason I'm asking and I can't speak how others feel but for me discussing issues of race with members of the black community I feel the way JP does trying to be cornered by questions to get a "ah haa"moment rather then the truth. You can also see questions like an attack.

https://youtu.be/aMcjxSThD54
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