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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
What rock have you been living under? Before the 1500 hour rule, it was not uncommon for people to get hired with 250 hours. It was the 1500 hour rule that did away with that low time hiring. I had many hired before me at my former regional that were 250 hour "wonders." I certainly didn't have any animosity towards them. I think you are talking about the early 2000s and earlier. Back then, yes, you had to have several thousands of hours. Not long after 9/11 is when the mins for the regionals lowered drastically.

It's quite eye-opening how quickly we got used to the idea of 1500 hours minimum when most of us were dying to get hired on at 250. I never say never, but I just don't see the 1500 hour getting repealed any time soon. If that happened, it would only be a bandaid on a gushing wound.
There came a time from 2005-ish until the 1500 hour rule where this is correct.

In 2003, I couldn't get a call from anyone until I had 1700 hours AND 350 multi-engine.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
There came a time from 2005-ish until the 1500 hour rule where this is correct.

In 2003, I couldn't get a call from anyone until I had 1700 hours AND 350 multi-engine.
Yeah, that does narrow it down to about the time I got hire at ZW...2006 actually. Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
Yeah, that does narrow it down to about the time I got hire at ZW...2006 actually. Thanks.
I should add that there was the exception if I paid 25,000 dollars to Gulfstream academy to sit in the right seat of a Beech 1900 for 250 hours that I could have gotten hired at 600 hours.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I should add that there was the exception if I paid 25,000 dollars to Gulfstream academy to sit in the right seat of a Beech 1900 for 250 hours that I could have gotten hired at 600 hours.

Ahh yes, the old extortion method. Classic!
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:44 AM
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A lot of guys that did the "extortion" method shaved years off the career entry which is a win in a seniority-driven industry. But those days are me with the 1500 hr rule.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
A lot of guys that did the "extortion" method shaved years off the career entry which is a win in a seniority-driven industry. But those days are me with the 1500 hr rule.
You got hired right at 250 as I recall... Was that 07 or 08?

Big question for you, do you think 1500 vs 250 made a difference in background when you showed up to 121? As in experience? I'm guessing you have yet to fly PIC since initial training correct? Do you see that as a weak point when upgrade time comes?

Honest questions. I wasn't a "wonder" so I'm not sure on the sentiment that now exists years down the line.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I should add that there was the exception if I paid 25,000 dollars to Gulfstream academy to sit in the right seat of a Beech 1900 for 250 hours that I could have gotten hired at 600 hours.
I believe Pinnacle had a deal with Gulfstream IIRC. Wasn't that just an interview with Pinnacle and doesn't guarantee a CJO?
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I believe Pinnacle had a deal with Gulfstream IIRC. Wasn't that just an interview with Pinnacle and doesn't guarantee a CJO?
Yep! They would go down to FLL a few times a month to interview them specifically.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
A lot of guys that did the "extortion" method shaved years off the career entry which is a win in a seniority-driven industry. But those days are me with the 1500 hr rule.
And I'm willing to bet you paid a hell of alot more for flight training at Jet U as oppose to a mom and pops flight school.
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Old 02-03-2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
There came a time from 2005-ish until the 1500 hour rule where this is correct.

In 2003, I couldn't get a call from anyone until I had 1700 hours AND 350 multi-engine.
I'm with 80kts here, I thought the 250 hour pilot era was a short lived aberration.
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