Any "Latest & Greatest" about Endeavor?
02-29-2016, 04:13 PM
#3281
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
For the record, I don't work for republic! Also for the record, you proved my point when you said just a few years ago republic guys were bragging about taking your q-400 flying! Nobody, especially you, should be excited to take flying from another carrier!
Nobody is excited about taking flying from other carriers. I know quite a few folks at republic that now have to deal with this mess. When that happened for endeavor (then pinnacle) many went through the first few stages of loss. Some denied it, some accepted and ran, some carried hope, some just rolled with the punches. When DL bought us I went from debating a move to buying DL stock and holding on. So far, it's a good decision. What 5 years, 10 years, 20 years looks like? Who knows.
FWIW, Those RP pilots I know are the same who asked me years ago, when things went into the dumps, if I wanted to come to republic and if so, put my name on the referral for their bonus. The regional industry only guarantees instability. The majors just ride the cyclical waves, with the hope of avoiding a wipeout. I started a decade ago, everyone was hiring, street CA's at many shops... 3 years later you were lucky to get a call for an FO interview while on furlough. This isn't something pilots control. Not a single person legally able to post on this board can influence a decision on airframes, and nobody it the front office of the aircraft has a say in what company will put its name behind the Cockpit Windows. We all make our choices of employment and place significant trust in the mgmt groups to keep the ship afloat. When all fails, Noah ain't bringing an arc to save any of us. We all must make decisions for our livelihood. I don't see republic going anywhere, and truly believe this BK will clear off the debt from previous mgmt attempts at outside growth (F9 purchase, 50 seat and trop flying) but in this case, all signals point to losing all ties with DL.
02-29-2016, 04:15 PM
#3282
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Originally Posted by Rayeli
Where do pilots usually live when based in DTW? Are there nice, safe places near Ann Arbor or Ypsilanti that can be rented for $800 per month or less?
The bad areas are really bad. Everything else is average or really great. A lot of guys live in Canton, Royal Oak, Taylor, or Novi areas.
Northville, Birmingham, Beverly Hills, Royal Oak, Bloomfield Hills, Grosse Point. And Rochester are probably the nicest suburbs. Some of those places are really expensive, others not so much.
02-29-2016, 04:20 PM
#3283
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Originally Posted by higney85
Have a drink and chill. This industry will only make complete sense in impending bankruptcy, merger, or furlough. It's cyclical. When everything seems to go well, the other shoe will drop.
Nobody is excited about taking flying from other carriers. I know quite a few folks at republic that now have to deal with this mess. When that happened for endeavor (then pinnacle) many went through the first few stages of loss. Some denied it, some accepted and ran, some carried hope, some just rolled with the punches. When DL bought us I went from debating a move to buying DL stock and holding on. So far, it's a good decision. What 5 years, 10 years, 20 years looks like? Who knows.
FWIW, Those RP pilots I know are the same who asked me years ago, when things went into the dumps, if I wanted to come to republic and if so, put my name on the referral for their bonus. The regional industry only guarantees instability. The majors just ride the cyclical waves, with the hope of avoiding a wipeout. I started a decade ago, everyone was hiring, street CA's at many shops... 3 years later you were lucky to get a call for an FO interview while on furlough. This isn't something pilots control. Not a single person legally able to post on this board can influence a decision on airframes, and nobody it the front office of the aircraft has a say in what company will put its name behind the Cockpit Windows. We all make our choices of employment and place significant trust in the mgmt groups to keep the ship afloat. When all fails, Noah ain't bringing an arc to save any of us. We all must make decisions for our livelihood. I don't see republic going anywhere, and truly believe this BK will clear off the debt from previous mgmt attempts at outside growth (F9 purchase, 50 seat and trop flying) but in this case, all signals point to losing all ties with DL.
Nobody is excited about taking flying from other carriers. I know quite a few folks at republic that now have to deal with this mess. When that happened for endeavor (then pinnacle) many went through the first few stages of loss. Some denied it, some accepted and ran, some carried hope, some just rolled with the punches. When DL bought us I went from debating a move to buying DL stock and holding on. So far, it's a good decision. What 5 years, 10 years, 20 years looks like? Who knows.
FWIW, Those RP pilots I know are the same who asked me years ago, when things went into the dumps, if I wanted to come to republic and if so, put my name on the referral for their bonus. The regional industry only guarantees instability. The majors just ride the cyclical waves, with the hope of avoiding a wipeout. I started a decade ago, everyone was hiring, street CA's at many shops... 3 years later you were lucky to get a call for an FO interview while on furlough. This isn't something pilots control. Not a single person legally able to post on this board can influence a decision on airframes, and nobody it the front office of the aircraft has a say in what company will put its name behind the Cockpit Windows. We all make our choices of employment and place significant trust in the mgmt groups to keep the ship afloat. When all fails, Noah ain't bringing an arc to save any of us. We all must make decisions for our livelihood. I don't see republic going anywhere, and truly believe this BK will clear off the debt from previous mgmt attempts at outside growth (F9 purchase, 50 seat and trop flying) but in this case, all signals point to losing all ties with DL.
02-29-2016, 04:24 PM
#3284
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
I'm already chill! I've only been in this industry 5 years and have been through a bankruptcy myself. I was simply pointing out to one of your fellow co workers that the shift in flying always comes at somebody else's expense! he was excited and all to happy and hopefull your predictions would come true!
If you want to play the sad game we should cry anytime any regional gets an aircraft since it's taking away mainline jobs.
02-29-2016, 04:28 PM
#3285
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
I'm already chill! I've only been in this industry 5 years and have been through a bankruptcy myself. I was simply pointing out to one of your fellow co workers that the shift in flying always comes at somebody else's expense! he was excited and all to happy and hopefull your predictions would come true!
02-29-2016, 04:29 PM
#3286
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Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1
Oh come on. None of us control what happens to the airplanes. It's only natural to be a little happy for more flying since it means movement and upgrades...
If you want to play the sad game we should cry anytime any regional gets an aircraft since it's taking away mainline jobs.
If you want to play the sad game we should cry anytime any regional gets an aircraft since it's taking away mainline jobs.
02-29-2016, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Oh boy you've been in this industry 5 whole years...you must be an expert..stop polluting this thread and move on out of it..no one is happy about taking flying from anyone...you can't deduce someone else's happiness or whatever from a message board...
02-29-2016, 04:34 PM
#3288
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Originally Posted by Jvw700
Amazing the turn around in attitude over there at pinnacle/mesaba/colgan in just a couple short years huh?
/s
02-29-2016, 04:40 PM
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That's not a very welcoming way to talk. Hopefully you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Pretty sure everyone else has equal rights to post in any thread they want. And if venting some anger on here keeps them from diving a RJ into a mountain, isn't it worth it to let them get it off their chest?
I kid, I kid. No one is about to drive a het into the ground. Please.
I kid, I kid. No one is about to drive a het into the ground. Please.
Originally Posted by whoareyou311
Oh boy you've been in this industry 5 whole years...you must be an expert..stop polluting this thread and move on out of it..no one is happy about taking flying from anyone...you can't deduce someone else's happiness or whatever from a message board...
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