KSCessnaDriver

Just because PSA can't staff their 200's and they're going away doesn't mean Endeavor will be the same. I may not be the biggest 9E cheerleader, but this non-sense of 200's going away totally needs to end. There will always be a need for 50 seat flying in select markets.

chrisreedrules

It's not just us...

And the 50 seaters will go away. Maybe not all of them, but the vast majority of them will. Endeavor can hire right now. Endeavor can hire because it offers an industry leading compensation package. The pilot pool is shrinking. All it takes is a couple of negative factors and your airline is no longer the most desirable place to work. The eventual rising price of gas and lack of new hires will mean the 50 seaters will go away in a lot of places. And something else to consider, is it possible that Delta realizes a lot of its regional pilots will have been hired elsewhere by 2018? Perhaps they plan on shrinking the 50 seat fleet organically because they know a lot of pilots will have moved on to bigger and better paying things than a regional.

gojo

Trying to predict what the airlines will do in the next 18 months or more in todays market is fruitless. The ability to staff will determine fleet size. And as the majors ramp up their hiring for retirements the regional landscape will continue to get smaller. In my opinion, it will start with the 200's then 700's.

greygoose

That may be right, what I got out of it was NYC wasn't going to be around anymore in 2018. Don't know if he meant 200 and or 900.

IlikePlaness

Same thing in my newhire class a few months back. Management specifically stated that Daddy D's 200 endeavor (see what I did there) in NYC is just a temporary plan. It was stated that not all 200s will go back to the desert, but the majority of them will based on current plans... Just reiterating what management told us as well.

As for my opinion on this: who cares what happens to the 200s? 18 months is a long time in this industry for things to change. Come 18 months, yeah, the airframes very well could go back to the desert as planned... or maybe they'll get extended 3 more years? Maybe we'll get 700s until they go to the desert? Maybe Atlanta will throw some E-jets this way? Or maybe there will be a hiring freeze, bonuses will discontinue, and we'll all be "stuck" (I doubt the last scenario, but then again, welcome to aviation).

I don't think any of us really know what the future holds, and while a little speculation can be interesting, I wouldn't lose sleep over any of this at night. Life's too short to draw on things that cannot be controlled.

Avroman

I guess I hadn't considered that there are some current upgrades with a year + to wait for the CJO class. That will provide openings for reserve if the backfilling of those openings comes back. What has no prospect of happening is holding a line on the 900 (captain) in DTW or MSP for a very long time without growth (and certainly not if it continues to shrink)

whoareyou311

Network also came into our upgrade class recently and told us starting next summer the 200s will start to be removed from NYC and be replaced with dual class aircraft! He didn't know exactly where the 200s will be absorbed, but DTW and MSP was his opinion.

Five93H

Eh, I don't care about being a 900 skipper, last thing I need is to get fat on snack baskets and meals! 2/7/9/Embraers are all the same to me.

WhiskeyKilo

I love the 200. The flights are all the perfect distance. I can't stand sitting in a chair for +2 hours letting the autopilot do all the flying.

Avroman

Thanks to Bloch many of us didn't have a choice in what aircraft to upgrade into you know? And I'll save the next commenter the trouble.... Reserve in base beats commuting to a line especially a commute to New York.