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#6223
No one has said anything about being a Delta employee. Just using the same terminology as the CEO (Delta family). We realize now that you must be a Delta employee to be a hard worker. If you want to know what it's feels like to be considered an unwelcomed outsider you only need to ride on a Delta jumseat.
#6225
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No one has said anything about being a Delta employee. Just using the same terminology as the CEO (Delta family). We realize now that you must be a Delta employee to be a hard worker. If you want to know what it's feels like to be considered an unwelcomed outsider you only need to ride on a Delta jumseat.
#6226
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Joined: Jul 2010
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From: window seat
No one has said anything about being a Delta employee. Just using the same terminology as the CEO (Delta family). We realize now that you must be a Delta employee to be a hard worker. If you want to know what it's feels like to be considered an unwelcomed outsider you only need to ride on a Delta jumseat.
I get that DCI pilots work hard and most are great pilots and employees etc.
I've never seen a negative attitude towards a DCI jumpseater and have indeed seen DL crews go out of their way to accommodate them (as it should be). I have seen some DCI jumpers act waaaaaaay too casual about it, dressed waaaaaaaay under our already generous standards and flashing an ID saying "I'll be jumpseating up here I guess" etc but have still been allowed on, even in cases where the (already liberal) rules say they shouldn't have been.
That's the exception, of course, as most DCI jumpseaters are professional and courteous and get the big picture. Are there some mainline crews that are jerks? Sure, and I can guarantee you there are the same types at DCI and everywhere.
That said, DCI is not DAL. I'm against management being able to use DCI as a shell company regardless of WO status or not, and wish we were all on one list with one CBA (although 100% staple or it never happens) that said, you have zero to gain from expecting to be a DL employee in full while at DCI or any other WO or sub.
As a pilot, if you're not on the DAL pilot seniority list and covered under the DAL pilot PWA scope section, you don't work at DAL. Period. Thinking otherwise is just toxic. Just ask ASA, Compass and Comair, or for that matter DGS or the old Comair Aviation Academy. Its irrelevant. If you want to work for DL, apply and work for DL, because currently you don't; Delta being included in the Delta Connection portion of the logo on your badge means nothing.
#6227
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Joined: Dec 2013
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Lolwut?
I get that DCI pilots work hard and most are great pilots and employees etc.
I've never seen a negative attitude towards a DCI jumpseater and have indeed seen DL crews go out of their way to accommodate them (as it should be). I have seen some DCI jumpers act waaaaaaay too casual about it, dressed waaaaaaaay under our already generous standards and flashing an ID saying "I'll be jumpseating up here I guess" etc but have still been allowed on, even in cases where the (already liberal) rules say they shouldn't have been.
That's the exception, of course, as most DCI jumpseaters are professional and courteous and get the big picture. Are there some mainline crews that are jerks? Sure, and I can guarantee you there are the same types at DCI and everywhere.
That said, DCI is not DAL. I'm against management being able to use DCI as a shell company regardless of WO status or not, and wish we were all on one list with one CBA (although 100% staple or it never happens) that said, you have zero to gain from expecting to be a DL employee in full while at DCI or any other WO or sub.
As a pilot, if you're not on the DAL pilot seniority list and covered under the DAL pilot PWA scope section, you don't work at DAL. Period. Thinking otherwise is just toxic. Just ask ASA, Compass and Comair, or for that matter DGS or the old Comair Aviation Academy. Its irrelevant. If you want to work for DL, apply and work for DL, because currently you don't; Delta being included in the Delta Connection portion of the logo on your badge means nothing.
I get that DCI pilots work hard and most are great pilots and employees etc.
I've never seen a negative attitude towards a DCI jumpseater and have indeed seen DL crews go out of their way to accommodate them (as it should be). I have seen some DCI jumpers act waaaaaaay too casual about it, dressed waaaaaaaay under our already generous standards and flashing an ID saying "I'll be jumpseating up here I guess" etc but have still been allowed on, even in cases where the (already liberal) rules say they shouldn't have been.
That's the exception, of course, as most DCI jumpseaters are professional and courteous and get the big picture. Are there some mainline crews that are jerks? Sure, and I can guarantee you there are the same types at DCI and everywhere.
That said, DCI is not DAL. I'm against management being able to use DCI as a shell company regardless of WO status or not, and wish we were all on one list with one CBA (although 100% staple or it never happens) that said, you have zero to gain from expecting to be a DL employee in full while at DCI or any other WO or sub.
As a pilot, if you're not on the DAL pilot seniority list and covered under the DAL pilot PWA scope section, you don't work at DAL. Period. Thinking otherwise is just toxic. Just ask ASA, Compass and Comair, or for that matter DGS or the old Comair Aviation Academy. Its irrelevant. If you want to work for DL, apply and work for DL, because currently you don't; Delta being included in the Delta Connection portion of the logo on your badge means nothing.
#6228
I don't think anyone disagrees with this assessment, other than a few Compass pilots who really thought they were mainline Delta there aren't any pilots in the regional world who think they are Delta employees. All we can ask is that you help to hold the line on scope, it was disheartening to read there is another attempt being made to relax large RJ scope.
#6230
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I know folks crediting 130+ a month doing this.
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