Management is hoping to fix the stagnation in DTW and MSP with the opening of the "Southern 200 base" but I doubt that will help much if at all... How many guys that lived in MEM commuted to ATL just to fly the 900? Quite a few I'm told. What makes you think they are going to bid off the 900 in DTW or MSP to commute to the 200 in ATL??? I think this is a big miscalculation. We will become even more overstaffed on the 900 in DTW and MSP because even more flying on that plane is scheduled to shift to New York next year and the captains on that plane aren't interested in going to the 200 in any base. Now maybe you change some of their minds if you offered to pay them 900 pay to change planes, but I doubt it. They simply don't want the extra work involved with the 200 (extra legs per day and less automated systems for example) I think the only ways you move guys out of DTW and MSP 900 captain in any real numbers over the next 10 years is either a true flow through or a displacement. And a flow may not even be enough to thin these positions with how many lifers are there. Or bring flying back to those bases for the 900.. but that's not likely to happen in the next couple years as things currently are.

 

I'll bid off and in a quick mental math game, I have 20 names of guys that would be doing the same. Ran out of fingers and toes. 20 + me in under 5 mins for the left seat. 12 flights on DL for 1:30 of time to ATL just from Mem... beats anywhere else hands down. Plenty of others have an easier commute to ATL compared to Dtw and NYC. Some even MSP. I did msp for a while and it worked out ok, and on my weekly flights up I still see many Mem nonrevs heading to or from. A southern base would do far more than attract newhires.

 

ATL would be very senior CA side. Half the guys I fly with are MEM or Florida commuters, and a handful of ATL two leg guys (how they stay sane...)

 

ATL would be very senior in the left seat and likely very junior to the right. In the end, recruiting would be able to offer all but west coast as easy commutes in a quick award. Seats in both the left and right would be open for upgrades, new hires, and junior CA's wanting home or westerly, and the base discussion of "another carrier has an ATL base" gets dropped from the pro/con list.

Bonus into industry leading payrates (new hire bonuses still remaining)- negotiations start dec 5 2016
EFB's- coming Q1 2017, LOA being lined up already
Co-domicile NYC- post efb
Commuter language for cost and QOL- works post EFB implementation, Q2 17
Reserve changes for QOL- test program dec 2016. Rolling out Q1 2017 if all goes well
Dual qual-post rev 4, coming Jan 17'
Southern base- look at cpa's from other carriers. Q2-4 17'

Solely personal opinion, with input from those who know what's up in multiple areas of alpa and company...but that's the next 12-18 months at EDV. All good things with operational savings and pay/QOL enhancements.

 

So dual qual is pretty much a done deal? Thanks.

 

You might want to get a more informed source?


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If Dual Qual is so close, would the seat locks still remain?


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As always, the advice is to bid where you want to be and not where you think you could be.

 

Been looking into how this works and was just wanting clarification on how the system works.
-I see mention of "qualified children" but bit exactly what "qualifies". My situation....I have 5 kids aged 16, 21,21, 23 and 25. Also, for parents....is there a dependency requirement or just as long as they are my parents.
-I'm assuming there are limits as to how many trips are available but couldn't find that either.
-I understand the differences between the non Rev and low fee fares.

I know they'll probably tell us all this in class but I was just wanting to get it straight before I go in January.

Thanks for your time

 

- I believe the max age for children is 24 or 25. No dependency requirement for parents, just parents. You get up to 4 parents, so you can use step parents but no in laws.
- Not sure what your asking on the last 2 bullets though.