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Old 05-09-2018, 04:49 PM
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What’re you waiting for? Get going on that!
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetunderwing View Post
We need a separate union and split this company up. The protected pilots and lifers can give the dues they pay to ALPA for shiny picket signs for JetBlue, WestJet and Frontier. Well over half the seniority list has been at Envoy not American Eagle flying Jetstreams and ATRs for 2 years or less. The protected pilots calling the majority of this pilot roster coddled children shows how inept and inept the contract they voted in is. Well over half the list is being punished for the gain of the protected pilots, time for the coddled children as I guess we are called to do something, and since we have the numbers it shouldnt be hard.
Yea.. you could do something... Take the trash bag out and hurry up and upgrade.
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetunderwing View Post
We need a separate union and split this company up. The protected pilots and lifers can give the dues they pay to ALPA for shiny picket signs for JetBlue, WestJet and Frontier. Well over half the seniority list has been at Envoy not American Eagle flying Jetstreams and ATRs for 2 years or less. The protected pilots calling the majority of this pilot roster coddled children shows how inept and inept the contract they voted in is. Well over half the list is being punished for the gain of the protected pilots, time for the coddled children as I guess we are called to do something, and since we have the numbers it shouldnt be hard.
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mdot View Post







Ohh no he didn’t.....
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Old 05-09-2018, 06:09 PM
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“Instead of slogging away at FO pay for these intervening months, you will be paid as a CA. Third year FO pay is 38.28. Third year CA pay is 73.33. This 35.05 per hour raise x 72 hours per month = an extra ~2500 per month. This far exceeds the retention bonus, which was $2500 quarterly.”

Are there any third year CAs making $73.33?? Also, third year FO pay is $41, correct?
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Old 05-09-2018, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DanRoman View Post
“Instead of slogging away at FO pay for these intervening months, you will be paid as a CA. Third year FO pay is 38.28. Third year CA pay is 73.33. This 35.05 per hour raise x 72 hours per month = an extra ~2500 per month. This far exceeds the retention bonus, which was $2500 quarterly.”


Are there any third year CAs making $73.33?? Also, third year FO pay is $41, correct?
You are correct on the FO pay. The captain pay question I’m curious about myself? I think it has something to do with the pay Banding, which I never cared to read into because reading to much hurts my head.
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Old 05-09-2018, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetunderwing View Post
We need a separate union and split this company up. The protected pilots and lifers can give the dues they pay to ALPA for shiny picket signs for JetBlue, WestJet and Frontier. Well over half the seniority list has been at Envoy not American Eagle flying Jetstreams and ATRs for 2 years or less. The protected pilots calling the majority of this pilot roster coddled children shows how inept and inept the contract they voted in is. Well over half the list is being punished for the gain of the protected pilots, time for the coddled children as I guess we are called to do something, and since we have the numbers it shouldnt be hard.
What punishment have you received??
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:19 PM
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Without the coddled children then you are still just a 10yr+ FO.
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:24 PM
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Man, so caustic and adversarial. I suppose you think they'll appreciate that from a junior FO over at AA, huh?
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DanRoman View Post
“Instead of slogging away at FO pay for these intervening months, you will be paid as a CA. Third year FO pay is 38.28. Third year CA pay is 73.33. This 35.05 per hour raise x 72 hours per month = an extra ~2500 per month. This far exceeds the retention bonus, which was $2500 quarterly.”

Are there any third year CAs making $73.33?? Also, third year FO pay is $41, correct?
I think this was just a mistake in the comms. 3rd year CA would almost definitely be on Pay Band A, which would be $69.68/hour. 3rd year FO pay is $38.28/hr. So $69.68-$38.28=$31.40/hr difference.

72 hr month = $2,260.80 difference
80 hr month = $2,512.80 difference
85 hr month = $2,669.00 difference
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