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Old 01-29-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser View Post
Yeah I asked in real life, unless I was fed some bad info.

When republic got their raises by the time I was a new hire all the lifers and people on the fence about leaving stayed because their contract got so good and I donít blame them. But because of that, it creates stagnation. And I am trying to get to a major, not stick around for the regionals.


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Old 01-30-2020, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser View Post
Cause the upgrade time at republic is like 2.5+ years


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The upgrade time into the 175 at Envoy is similar. You'll get upgraded but it'll be onto the 145 unless you take your time. And even then if you can hold it. If you asked this question in July, about a year and a half was the time. Then in September, it went back up to 2 years. You'll be guaranteed 175 if you go to Republic. Crap shoot here.
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Old 01-30-2020, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser View Post
. And I am trying to get to a major, not stick around for the regionals.
Also were about to see stagnation for about a year, 20 flows a month plus an unknown amount of people getting jobs elsewhere.
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:10 AM
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Old 02-10-2020, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by HalyardJammer View Post
Also were about to see stagnation for about a year, 20 flows a month plus an unknown amount of people getting jobs elsewhere.
That stagnation of the flow is about what it will be indefinitely until they realize the outside attrition is costing them more than increasing the flow.
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Old 02-10-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude View Post
That stagnation of the flow is about what it will be indefinitely until they realize the outside attrition is costing them more than increasing the flow.
only if no one is available to fill the seat and not even then.
how much does it cost envoy for outside attrition versus flow. you leaving either from flow or another job elsewhere. outside attrition keeps the flow down in the amount of years to flow. the cost is about equal, so you have no leverage to increase flow unless you work for less.
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Old 02-10-2020, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by buddies8 View Post
only if no one is available to fill the seat and not even then.
how much does it cost envoy for outside attrition versus flow. you leaving either from flow or another job elsewhere. outside attrition keeps the flow down in the amount of years to flow. the cost is about equal, so you have no leverage to increase flow unless you work for less.
My point is that AAG loses the people. Although it does cost the same to replace some one to flow as OAL attrition, people who stay for the flow means the company has them longer.

But maybe what they want is to take from other regionals. But no airline is going to hire away enough from other regionals to put them out of business. So in that case the flow really is just a sham. Of course most of us know that.
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Old 02-10-2020, 02:14 PM
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"the flow really is just a sham. Of course most of us know that."
Reading this forum, see how our MEC votes... I m not sure most know that.
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Old 02-10-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast View Post
"the flow really is just a sham. Of course most of us know that."
Reading this forum, see how our MEC votes... I m not sure most know that.
Last time I checked, the MEC leadership and most LEC reps are new. The guys who voted have flowed.
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Old 02-10-2020, 07:45 PM
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Last time I checked, the MEC leadership and most LEC reps are new. The guys who voted have flowed.
Mm hmm

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