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03-29-2022, 01:09 PM
#2122
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
These planes will be replacements for 145s. If anything the airline is slowly shrinking overall because Envoy can’t hire, train and retain enough pilots for the number of captains needed.
03-29-2022, 01:58 PM
#2123
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Make a quick stop at a LCC/ULLC first.
That being said, in two years, (or less) this hiring wave will be subsiding. I don’t think it will be an issue, especially for those just now getting hired at the regional level. Moving to a LCC/ULLC ASAP as opposed to staying at a regional will probably be more advantageous move anyway.
That being said, in two years, (or less) this hiring wave will be subsiding. I don’t think it will be an issue, especially for those just now getting hired at the regional level. Moving to a LCC/ULLC ASAP as opposed to staying at a regional will probably be more advantageous move anyway.
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Then why Envoy? There is NOTHING about ANY regional that makes it worth commuting from a base for another regional that you live at.
03-29-2022, 06:20 PM
#2124
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Joined APC: Jan 2017
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Originally Posted by AR1978
I've been hired by Endeavor with a June class start date. However, I'm not sure that I'll actually be based in Atlanta even though I live there. Which was why I was asking about Envoy. I'm also firing off applications to the LCC, so we'll see what happens. Figured if there was a delay with Endeavor or something Envoy would be a good second choice given the family I have in Chicago that I could stay with.
03-29-2022, 07:48 PM
#2125
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Overall, the vacancy indicates where the company THINKS they need people, nothing else. All flying is at the whim of AAG and can change from what was projected. There is certainly no additional flying, as it can’t be staffed. It’s only a shift of where AAG wants flights from and even then, with current through flying, other than origination and termination of a usually four day sequence, it may not be from the original base anyway.
No new planes until late in the year (only 3 new 175s) and one additional 170 already on property that should be on line during summer.
Any physical movement of planes from one base to the other is pretty transparent. The only thing one really sees is the number of lines in a given base.
There are no displacements OFF of any aircraft. There are likely to be some displacements from FO to CA, but that is not specifically related to which airframe, it will solely be based on who has the lowest seniority with eligible hours when the bid is run.
Without an actual displacement, upgrades could come from either plane and any base. Overall management of what is actually reduced won’t be known until the bid is run either as the company can choose to backfill vacancies or not as they happen during the bid.
No new planes until late in the year (only 3 new 175s) and one additional 170 already on property that should be on line during summer.
Any physical movement of planes from one base to the other is pretty transparent. The only thing one really sees is the number of lines in a given base.
There are no displacements OFF of any aircraft. There are likely to be some displacements from FO to CA, but that is not specifically related to which airframe, it will solely be based on who has the lowest seniority with eligible hours when the bid is run.
Without an actual displacement, upgrades could come from either plane and any base. Overall management of what is actually reduced won’t be known until the bid is run either as the company can choose to backfill vacancies or not as they happen during the bid.
03-30-2022, 03:39 AM
#2126
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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Originally Posted by AR1978
I've been hired by Endeavor with a June class start date. However, I'm not sure that I'll actually be based in Atlanta even though I live there. Which was why I was asking about Envoy. I'm also firing off applications to the LCC, so we'll see what happens. Figured if there was a delay with Endeavor or something Envoy would be a good second choice given the family I have in Chicago that I could stay with.
03-30-2022, 07:35 AM
#2127
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
You should be able to get ATL in relatively short order at 9E as an FO. Captain is a different story, but Sprontier has a base there by the time that you're ready to upgrade.
That said, yes, FOs can hold even the senior bases at EDV in less than a year. EDV is bleeding pilots and they aren't even going to Delta. So if you want to be based at ATL, go to EDV and even if you have to make it through one of the other bases for a month or two, it will work out if you plan to live in Atlanta.
03-30-2022, 08:41 AM
#2129
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Posts: 97
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
Make a quick stop at a LCC/ULLC first.
That being said, in two years, (or less) this hiring wave will be subsiding. I don’t think it will be an issue, especially for those just now getting hired at the regional level. Moving to a LCC/ULLC ASAP as opposed to staying at a regional will probably be more advantageous move anyway.
That being said, in two years, (or less) this hiring wave will be subsiding. I don’t think it will be an issue, especially for those just now getting hired at the regional level. Moving to a LCC/ULLC ASAP as opposed to staying at a regional will probably be more advantageous move anyway.
03-30-2022, 10:00 AM
#2130
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Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 62
Originally Posted by Counselor
Why subside in two years? I thought the wave of age-65 retirements is supposed to continue for a few years?
This was my thought process as well. The retirements are rising every year to a peak around 2026-2028.
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