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04-06-2022 | 07:10 PM

#2161

7 3 7 NG Dude

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Originally Posted by Deathskippy

My old ATP-CTP sim partner had orientation on the 18th of February and has a class date on April 18th. I went to orientation on March 10th and still haven't heard anything back. At this rate, I'm expecting the end of May for my class date.

I was interviewed in October and orientation was mid December and Indoc was end of February and we can came back end of march , incredibly long waiting times but I’ve seen it’s very slightly getting better . Still , right now I’m doing CPTs and been waiting almost 6 months.

04-06-2022 | 07:31 PM

#2162

chihuahua

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Originally Posted by Deathskippy

So assuming you don't have to do CTP, we're talking a good 4 - 5 months after the 'orientation', at least, before you touch an airplane.

04-06-2022 | 09:04 PM

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pitchattitude

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Originally Posted by chihuahua

So assuming you don't have to do CTP, we're talking a good 4 - 5 months after the 'orientation', at least, before you touch an airplane.

You don’t get to “touch an airplane” at any airline with less than two and a half months or so of training.

04-06-2022 | 09:38 PM

#2164

chihuahua

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude

You don’t get to “touch an airplane” at any airline with less than two and a half months or so of training.

Yeah 2.5 months is to be expected before starting IOE, then by the time you finish IOE and get released you're at about three. That's normal, at least in the years leading up to 2020 at most places. But if people are waiting two plus months for just for a class and sims are backed up, it seems like people will be pushing a good four months minimum before even starting IOE.

04-07-2022 | 02:54 AM

#2165

TXMike

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From: B737 Line FO

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Originally Posted by Deathskippy

Has anyone from the 3/10 orientation received a class date yet?

I have not and the other 6 I have contact with have not received theirs. I am suspect of 4/18 now.

04-07-2022 | 02:56 AM

#2166

TXMike

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Originally Posted by machh78

Today was 11 OFL

Which orientation date were you? How many in class on 4/4?

04-07-2022 | 04:29 AM

#2167

pitchattitude

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Originally Posted by chihuahua

It is the industry norm right now, including the majors. The alternative is to not start until the company is ready to push you all the way through. Enjoy the paid time off.

04-07-2022 | 07:20 AM

#2168

NoValueAviator

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Whining about paid time off won't make you many friends in the crew room just fyi. Everyone on the line is getting worked to the bone and I'd gladly trade my 11 d/o schedule for what you're doing.

04-07-2022 | 07:21 AM

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From: ERJ Right

Travel benefits kick in after orientation, utilize them. Head abroad and explore.

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04-07-2022 | 07:54 AM

#2170

Voodoo11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TXMike

I have not and the other 6 I have contact with have not received theirs. I am suspect of 4/18 now.

People in the Feb orientation class were scheduled for the 3/7, 3/21, 4/4, and 4/18 classes. I'm not sure if there are more left but I think that covers everyone from February.

My guess is that the March orientation will get 5/2, 5/16, and 5/30.