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07-30-2019 | 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator

Don’t get why anyone hates on Cujo. He knows more about this place’s history than anyone else has ever shared here and has insights on the company and the MECs mindsets that are still relevant now, and he clearly wants the best for the pilots. Seems fine to me. You guys probably **** talk the friendly lifers you fly with too. Be a little less DFW.

He may know a lot of history, but he has a habit of misrepresenting it. His biases are on full display to those who also know the history. The lack of accuracy is normally what gets him in hot water with some of the other knowledgeable members of the community. That’s not to say that everything he writes on here is without merit, but I urge you to take a lot of his historical rhetoric with a grain of salt.

07-31-2019 | 01:56 AM

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The same can be said for those that oppose his points.

07-31-2019 | 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedro4President

Yes not as confusing as getting paid year 3,4,5 then back to 3 when upgrading.

How that flow looking for you? You management pilot now right. Look like it when you show support for Loa.

07-31-2019 | 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by copycopy

Pro-pilot bias ok w/ me dude

07-31-2019 | 06:57 AM

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They dont like people with facts and knowledge of the mec b.s.

07-31-2019 | 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by havick206

That sucks. Really should have gone to a pilot vote with that significant of a change.

My thoughts exactly! Couple others I’ve spoken to have the same perspective.

Fear that this LOA would be DOA.... again like the last one.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn't the previous LOA (RSV & concessions) was going to to be sent for the pilot group to vote. But negative vibes immediately upon release caused MEC to say nay to company? Am I wrong? For those that remember state the facts if known.

07-31-2019 | 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentLurker

There were a few factors. I think the most significant at the time was Endeavor releasing their new pay rates. That combined with the proposed RSV changes being weak were what killed that LOA. A lot of that was conveyed during the union teleconference call with the pilot group in November 2017.

07-31-2019 | 07:38 AM

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That's close enough to what I remember. Also, the details of that proposed LOA came out almost immediately after Endeavor announced their big pay raises that they also got with contractual improvements on reserve and commuting rules. I think that had the proposed LOA had come out earlier and voted on prior to Endeavor's new deal, it might have been much better received.

07-31-2019 | 07:49 AM

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Has the union stated why this wasn’t brought to the pilots for a vote? I mean last I checked we didn’t elect dictators that just get to wield their influence unchecked.

Thanks to the ORD Reps for standing their ground even if ultimately it didn’t stop the vote.