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NoValueAviator 03-16-2020 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Chato (Post 2999649)
oh the irony. You realize some of these guys who voted for that horrible agreement might be furloughed as opposed to sitting at the top back at their regional with better QOL altogether for them and the rest of the pilot group. They wanted the flow increase at all cost they got it.

looks like they're getting 6 mos paid leave at 55 hrs/mo. while 2-3% of us are dying from chinese coronavirus in 2 star Holiday Inns in Ohio lol

buddies8 03-16-2020 06:52 AM

Union at work. Nuff said.

Cyio 03-16-2020 09:38 AM

At what point are we being needlessly exposed to risk of catching this? Given we can’t get tested before going home I find it comical that restaurants in multiple states won’t allow people in yet here we are, flying around groups all day long.

will there be some sort of hazard pay for all of this?

Chato 03-16-2020 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3000306)
At what point are we being needlessly exposed to risk of catching this? Given we can’t get tested before going home I find it comical that restaurants in multiple states won’t allow people in yet here we are, flying around groups all day long.

will there be some sort of hazard pay for all of this?

Loads have been pretty light in the 140. Im talking single digits most trips which is “good” less exposure. But you got a point, I wish the company would come up with a plan

NoValueAviator 03-16-2020 10:13 AM

what if the plan is a few of us die and some of us lose our medicals, and they "right size" the pilot group to demand that way LOL

Cyio 03-16-2020 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Chato (Post 3000317)
Loads have been pretty light in the 140. Im talking single digits most trips which is “good” less exposure. But you got a point, I wish the company would come up with a plan

I am not seeing that on the 175. Been in the 40’s and 50’s every single flight.

uavking 03-16-2020 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3000377)
I am not seeing that on the 175. Been in the 40’s and 50’s every single flight.

Where the heck are you flying? I’ve had business routes on typically heavy business travel days with pax counts in the 20’s. Heck, on a Monday morning (as in today) I had single digits to the HQ city of a Fortune 50 multinational; as many non-rev as rev pax. Not to mention that loads are not necessarily an indicator of yields...

6ix9ineYearFlow 03-18-2020 02:35 AM

Most of the flight loads are wayyyy down, single digits to mid-teens on the 145 & 175.

NoValueAviator 03-19-2020 07:47 AM

Total & indefinite hiring freeze at Envoy announced today.

Yet we're gonna staff 20 more Embraer 175s next month.

dera 03-19-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3003747)
Total & indefinite hiring freeze at Envoy announced today.

Yet we're gonna staff 20 more Embraer 175s next month.

They will be parked initially, I think.


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