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-   -   Envoy 2020 (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/126470-envoy-2020-a.html)

pitchattitude 03-19-2020 08:35 AM
Originally Posted by dera (Post 3003758)
They will be parked initially, I think.
They will have to be brought on to the Envoy certificate first anyway.

dera 03-19-2020 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3003835)
They will have to be brought on to the Envoy certificate first anyway.
These planes wont need full conformance checks, so that process is quick.

3GreenKSNA 03-19-2020 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3003747)
Total & indefinite hiring freeze at Envoy announced today.



Yet we're gonna staff 20 more Embraer 175s next month.
They will need to go through conformity checks before they can be added onto the certificate. Depending on the extent of the work that needs to be inspected and corrected it can take some time.

-Keep the dirty side down

But seriously 03-19-2020 09:40 AM
Based on the two announcements coming in the same email, I’m guessing there is a major drawdown on 145 to cover the transition.

Pure speculation though.

wiz5422 03-19-2020 09:42 AM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3003747)
Total & indefinite hiring freeze at Envoy announced today.

Yet we're gonna staff 20 more Embraer 175s next month.

Flowbacks...... Like it or not it is being discussed.

dera 03-19-2020 09:44 AM
Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 3003966)
Flowbacks...... Like it or not it is being discussed.
No it isnt.

But seriously 03-19-2020 09:51 AM
Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 3003966)
Flowbacks...... Like it or not it is being discussed.
They can get new hire positions at ENY without any input from ALPA. If AAG wants to do that, frankly, who cares. The previous flow back guaranteed them CA seats. That’s what caused the real problems. THAT would have to be negotiated with ALPA and put to a vote (hopefully). I can’t imagine that would ever gain any traction.

But seriously 03-19-2020 09:58 AM
Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 3003966)
Flowbacks...... Like it or not it is being discussed.
They can get new hire positions at ENY without any input from ALPA. If AAG wants to do that, frankly, who cares. The previous flow back guaranteed them CA seats. That’s what caused the real problems. THAT would have to be negotiated with ALPA and put to a vote (hopefully). I can’t imagine that would ever gain any traction.

CLE to IAH 03-19-2020 10:43 AM
Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 3003966)
Flowbacks...... Like it or not it is being discussed.
no it isn’t.

Flying Taco 03-19-2020 12:50 PM
I am or I guess was a new hire in one of the upcoming classes. I did not find out about the hiring freeze from Envoy, but from you guys/gals on APC and my friends in this airline. I wish they would come out with an email or phone call telling us what the heck is going on for all of us. So far, us new hires are still left in the dark and it has been nothing but crickets.


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