Well from what we are being told we aren't ignoring emails either. We have been told communication has been established. So we are being told one thing and y'all are being told another. PSA pilots have said this multiple times but at this point believe what you all want to believe.

 

If/when this deal won't give them the cost savings they are looking for, I am sure they will be back for more. This most definitely won't be the last LOA being discussed over COVID.

 

If that’s true then it’s wonderful news. Go in peace brother, and if in the future you happen to get offered 175s for concessions... everyone I’ve talked to here who used to fly the 700 who is on the 175 now liked the 700 more.

 

Concessions never end well especially for a shiny 175 which at the end of the day is still an RJ lol In my book an RJ is an RJ. Could care less where the engines are located. Pay the right price like any pilot wants and give me the quality of life I want I could care less about the plane itself. QOL and pay is numero uno

 

I understand y’all have had issues with communication in the past, certainly we have too. My opinion, worthless as it is, is that there should have been no need to solicit input on this proposal. It should be obvious that it is unacceptable to offer the same terms that ground personnel and flight attendants, although very valuable to the operation, are given considering the sacrifices we’ve had to make for our careers. The loans, years of training, and years of time building are incomparable to other labor groups that again, while valuable, have not made those same sacrifices, do not share our burden, and may be easily and quickly trained.

A quick update that management had submitted a sub par proposal and that negotiations will continue would have sufficed. By tacitly agreeing to this your MEC has devalued yourselves and also our profession. We are not rampers, we are highly trained professionals and we have earned more than a concessionary 19 hours. And now our negotiations, which are still closed to us all, are affected by this offer that has been submitted with at least the appearance of the MEC seal of approval.

Y’all deserve so much more than this offer.

 

You have absolutely no room to throw shade about concessions, considering current events. The shoe is now on the other foot.

 

Main line bus / 737 pilots that volunteered and were awarded the age 62 early out option just got it yanked by the management. Only giving it to wide body and 190 pilots now. They rebuffed on the original deal after awarding it. Fortuitous indeed. Stay frosty. #GWOTTrapLordz

 

The company may THINK they are targeting military with the CSLOA, but it’s not going to work.

While there may be a VERY small group that can get mil time seemingly on demand, the reality is that those Guard and Reserve people do their required days and not much more. That usually averages out to about six days a month. Most can’t do more than that unless there is a deployment involved, either the actual deployment or train up. Those mil days end up helping out those that are trying to pick up open time because if they’re a line holder, those days end up there in OT, or if they are out for a whole month that means one person lower on the seniority list gets a line.

Most folks still aren’t going to be able to make it on 25% pay plus their normal military days.

 

Its alright they get to fly the awesome transitional 175... getting them prepared for the real planes they'll fly at mainline.

 

you seem like a guy I could have a beer with to be honest.

Lets all hold the line on this.

Just a little joke. Please chill, I don’t wanna wind up buried in your back yard.