He’s not your buddy, guy

Lol, there’s enough to go around. No need to tell someone ELSE to calm down.

Me triggered? YOU were the one that wrote a whole paragraph about why QT would not come back and didn’t even look at the context of the post. Before you call me kettle, you better look in the mirror, pot.

Good lord, a reaction like this is pretty telling that you either probably know the dev team behind quick trade or you have other issues that need to be worked out. I was providing context as to why we shouldn’t talk about it anymore because it’s a dead issue, the creators screwed it up by illegally accessing DECS. So anyone reading this in order on the most read thread we have in this forum won’t have to bounce around looking for an answer other than “SuCh A tYpIcal MoVe bY tHe CoMpany” as you would say.

We need to honestly focus on getting PBS so we can get access to a system like Sabre FLICA that makes pickups, drops and trading way better. Why haven’t we gotten it yet after the 44th 175 has been delivered?


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No vested interest in QT. Nor do I have other “issues”. There were several others that DID understand the context of the post. Most people reading this forum won’t get hung up on a bit of sarcasm.

But you’re right, there are plenty of deficiencies that need to be addressed and the current limited opener and this current LOA aren’t anywhere close to addressing them.

He's not your guy, pal

He’s not your guy, friend*

For the senior bubbas its 5 months a year. I get it, but they are a minority.

I don’t get what you guys are complaining about. PBS was already agreed to (essentially). It is an overall concession by the pilot group. We will get less money.
There is absolutely zero chance that our QOL will improve based on a system implemented by RW and RN. The company has been putting it off so as to avoid the implementation cost and not rock the boat. I say let sleeping dogs lie.

It’s not that the Gummers are afraid of losing DTS, it’s their fear of what the company would and will do once PBS is here.
Sabre FLICA? Better quality of life? More opportunity to make money?
As long as the pilot haters JE, JD, and RW are in control I wouldn’t count on it. They would NEVER agree to the union having much if any say in filters used when implementing PBS. There’s decades of past history with these people not budging. What makes anyone think that “ this time will be different” is beyond me.
A Leopard can’t change its spots.

Whether it is PBS or line bidding, just like any other seniority based system, those senior in a status will still be able to get the schedule they want and those who are junior will get $h!+. As long as there is no minimum daily or trip credit, there will continue to be 11 hour four day trips and GRK lost days (probably on the same sequence).

You’d lose the ability to have conflicts for training, and vacation. It would take into account your transition schedule and avoid the carryover issues. PBS would also optimize the number of reserve pilots necessary. And could reduce overall headcount. Without a good flight file and strong rules to go with it, PBS is bad for the pilots. It’s not a cure all.

In addition, there would be less OT because of the less conflict, DTS, etc.

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A former Aeromexico E170 just landed in ABI.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...245Z/KGYR/KABI

Looks like it’s been bank owned for the last year and parked at GYR all that time. Made a stop in TUS with the AeroMexico tail number, probably to clear customs, before going to GYR. But GYR doesn’t have a lot of space for long term storage, so kind of an interesting home for the past year. Hopefully one of those rumored to come to ENY with more to follow. Last I heard the others weren’t to be online until September.

Word on the street is that we will eventually receive 10 of those frames. That’s in addition of the 20 European frames that were negotiated during the scamdemic.
Didn’t realize the Mexico deal was on that fast of a track.

What other European airframes are there? CityFlier only had six.

If you remember RW’s email ended with “the potential for more”.
The leasing company that held the notes on the CityFlyer frames has more parked. There were 20 being negotiated for on that deal at the beginning of 1/20. Rona put things on the back burner til much later in the year.
The AeroMexico frames deal came along more recently.
If you think about it, 30 is a good round number. It’s my belief that they’ll use these as a one on one replacement for the 145s as they head for the sunset.
Edit: The company is keeping their cards close to their chests on an actual number since the pocket book strings are held by AAG. As time passes and we prove these planes to be reliably operated, they should get approval for more.
6 airframes configured to 65 seats isn’t enough to make the difference in flexibility that they are shooting for as far as “right sizing” the equipment on a day to day need on routes.

30 may be a nice round number, but that is rarely the case. The last information I saw was an article from The Points Guy and there were
nine listed at AeroMexico Connect.

“Among the jets that the Mexico City-based carrier plans to return to lessors are all nine of the Embraer E170s flown by its regional affiliate Aeromexico Connect. This would leave the subsidiary with a fleet of just larger E190s.”

https://thepointsguy.com/news/aerome...ankruptcy/amp/

The one that just landed in ABI with a new N number was owned by Bank of Utah, which is likely a leasing company then. Whether or not they have more is another question. But someone said the AeroMexico planes were off the table as they were too clapped out. Time will tell.

Hopefully the new (to ENY) 170s will be some fleet re-growth to get back closer to 200 airframes and be a replacement for 140/145s that were already parked instead of current planes.

The last ALPA call basically said the only solid A/C acquisitions were the 6 from England. Everything else is unsubstantiated Internet rumors and not true as far as they know (they specifically said that).

That may be outdated info at this point, or they had more insight but weren’t allowed to share it publicly. Still, that’s what they said.

From multiple sources
Lots of new destinations in the future. (Some which may surprise you)
The number of 170s to be acquired is planned and therefore can’t be made public until Dougweiser’s money men give the green light.
As far as increasing fleet numbers, I wouldn’t count on it.
My opinion is they’ll do a one for one swap with the existing fleet of 140/145s
Recruiting is so far behind that it’ll be a miracle to keep cheeks in the seats of what we have numbers wise now.
Expect attrition to increase which will only exacerbate the staffing situation.

I think this is a good opportunity to remind people that the guy who Lands by B (taxiway B) exists and is a real POS.

Who’s trip did he steal now? Or did you have the unpleasant experience of flying with him?

Looks like the company at least recognized retention and staffing are becoming an issue but once again offered a short term solution instead of following through with meaningful changes. Those changes were pounced on by the union and even though they “accepted pilot input” they were adopted without a vote. At least this is only giving six months. Hopefully by then things will be worse giving another chance for long term improvements. Unfortunately one downside of attrition out pacing training ability will mean a shrinking pilot group which will stifle flow with the “equation”.

Pilots don’t get to vote on LOA’s, only TA’s. Attrition is even higher this month from what I hear. RW better get it together before he is forced to change his selection to “accept when offered.”

In the weekly meeting, AA asked Envoy to send more flows and Envoy said no.

Directly from page 47 of the ALPA Policy Manual "Membership Ratification apply to contracts only and will not apply to Letters of Understanding (LOU) or Letters of Agreement (LOA)."

Your rep is your vote. Don't like it, change your rep. It has been done before. ZB lead a recall in ORD in the past.

I doubt that.

Chicago upheld the tradition from what I’m told… the one where they listen to pilot input and vote the way their pilots want. That tradition was started by the immortal TC… and carried on after he left.

DFW needs to get their act together imo, we're about to have leverage again and we need a steady hand on the tiller so we don't blow it. Again.

There was no reason to give the company this gift while they're JMing the hell out of us.

Honestly, the ORD rep who voted no loves him some OT. He did what he saw as right anyway. I give them all credit because it is a tough job balancing what the pilots want and what you view as the best tactical move. Remember that negotiating strategy is kept secret to the extent possible, so they have to sometimes vote a certain way knowing that they have more information than the pilots.

Immortal? That’s a bit over the top, even for this forum.

It’s hyperbole. But he is a good dude. I hope he’s having fun at his new adventure.

literally who f'n care about attracting cadets. Its not pilot job to. also not pilot job to give things away to get cadets to come here.