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05-16-2015 | 03:41 PM
#171
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The old numbers were:
Pilots hired after October 11, 2011 are offered 35% of all AA new hire training slots, no fewer than 15 per month.
But these have now have also been increased.
05-16-2015 | 05:19 PM
#172
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From: EMB-145 CA
You all are nuts. And those numbers are wrong. Eny management in the last ta saw the need to wrap up the 824 award. After them at 30 a month, if they don't try and comair us, it's 25/mo I believe until oct 2011 then it drops again..
Pdt has 300 pilots at 3 month, if they grow to 500 they get 4 or 5 a month. What moron math are you using that it's under ten years. Also the salsbury fsdo just rejected their 145 program proposal so who knows what will happen until it gets approved which I'm sure it will.....eventually.
Pdt has 300 pilots at 3 month, if they grow to 500 they get 4 or 5 a month. What moron math are you using that it's under ten years. Also the salsbury fsdo just rejected their 145 program proposal so who knows what will happen until it gets approved which I'm sure it will.....eventually.
05-16-2015 | 05:40 PM
#173
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From: Semi-Retired...
05-16-2015 | 06:11 PM
#175
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You all are nuts. And those numbers are wrong. Eny management in the last ta saw the need to wrap up the 824 award. After them at 30 a month, if they don't try and comair us, it's 25/mo I believe until oct 2011 then it drops again..
Pdt has 300 pilots at 3 month, if they grow to 500 they get 4 or 5 a month. What moron math are you using that it's under ten years. Also the salsbury fsdo just rejected their 145 program proposal so who knows what will happen until it gets approved which I'm sure it will.....eventually.
Pdt has 300 pilots at 3 month, if they grow to 500 they get 4 or 5 a month. What moron math are you using that it's under ten years. Also the salsbury fsdo just rejected their 145 program proposal so who knows what will happen until it gets approved which I'm sure it will.....eventually.
Salisbury doesn't even have a FSDO? lol...
05-16-2015 | 07:36 PM
#177
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I always like to look at real numbers... So, the most junior flow selected last time was April of '99 hire. That's 16 years to flow. However here are the numbers from the Envoy flow list. Estimating 33 month (flow (~30) + attrition leaving (~3)) we have.
Continuing from there and increasing the number who flow/leave to 40 (15 flow + 25leaving) you hit the following numbers
Wow, I'm even surprised at that!
1999: 158 pilots (4.8 months)
2000: 146 pilots (4.4 months)
2001: 78 pilots (2.4 months)
2002: 0
2003: 0
2004: 103 pilots (3.1 months)
2005: 55 pilots (1.7 months)
2006: 49 pilots (1.5 months)
So in 1.5 years (17.8 months) it will drop from 19 years (2015-1999=19) to 11 years (2017-2006) street to AA through Envoy.2000: 146 pilots (4.4 months)
2001: 78 pilots (2.4 months)
2002: 0
2003: 0
2004: 103 pilots (3.1 months)
2005: 55 pilots (1.7 months)
2006: 49 pilots (1.5 months)
Continuing from there and increasing the number who flow/leave to 40 (15 flow + 25leaving) you hit the following numbers
2007 249 pilots (6.2 months)
2008 159 pilots (4.0 months)
2009 0
2010 123 pilots (3.1 months)
2011 351 pilots (8.8 months)
2012 8 pilots (included in 2013 numbers)
2013 95 pilots (2.6 months)
2014 87 pilots (2.2 months)
2008 159 pilots (4.0 months)
2009 0
2010 123 pilots (3.1 months)
2011 351 pilots (8.8 months)
2012 8 pilots (included in 2013 numbers)
2013 95 pilots (2.6 months)
2014 87 pilots (2.2 months)
So that leaves 2 years and 3 months (26.8 months to flow).
If you are hired off the street today at Envoy, and nothing else changes, you should be able to flow to AA in 3 years and 9 months.Wow, I'm even surprised at that!
The path from new hire Envoy pilot to AA pilot is working just like AA planned. Soon we will be down to 5 years on that front and possibly less.
05-16-2015 | 07:38 PM
#178
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From: ERJ - 145
Thank you for posting these numbers. More people need to understand just what is happening here at Envoy and just how enhanced our flow to AA is. And that includes many of our doomsdayer pilots who don't understand those numbers posted above.
The path from new hire Envoy pilot to AA pilot is working just like AA planned. Soon we will be down to 5 years on that front and possibly less.
The path from new hire Envoy pilot to AA pilot is working just like AA planned. Soon we will be down to 5 years on that front and possibly less.
05-16-2015 | 07:43 PM
#179
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From: Reverse Cowgirl
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