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05-21-2015 | 01:15 PM
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I don't doubt that is a possibility, and not a bad outcome for all involved and I am fine with that. I was referring more to the PSA aircraft parking prediction. At the end of the day anything can happen and I wish both carriers luck going forward; I just think that everyone on both sides of the fence needs to take a step back from pretentious future telling.
time will tell, won't it. I can wait. You guys should plan accordingly though.
05-21-2015 | 01:19 PM
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05-21-2015 | 02:53 PM
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What, in your eyes, justifies us voting in concessions? You're saying they can't even do the things they planned before we capitulated--what additional measures would they have "punished" us with?
05-21-2015 | 03:07 PM
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So you're saying PSA can't take the planes, everyone is having trouble hiring, and you believe that unless a fountain of youth is found there is no way around the massive movement of pilots to the majors.
What, in your eyes, justifies us voting in concessions? You're saying they can't even do the things they planned before we capitulated--what additional measures would they have "punished" us with?
What, in your eyes, justifies us voting in concessions? You're saying they can't even do the things they planned before we capitulated--what additional measures would they have "punished" us with?
05-21-2015 | 05:28 PM
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So you're saying PSA can't take the planes, everyone is having trouble hiring, and you believe that unless a fountain of youth is found there is no way around the massive movement of pilots to the majors.
What, in your eyes, justifies us voting in concessions? You're saying they can't even do the things they planned before we capitulated--what additional measures would they have "punished" us with?
What, in your eyes, justifies us voting in concessions? You're saying they can't even do the things they planned before we capitulated--what additional measures would they have "punished" us with?
05-21-2015 | 05:54 PM
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05-21-2015 | 06:16 PM
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It's more likely that Envoy will be parking the planes and PSA will be taking them as we see fit. There is absolutely no scenario where PSA reduces flying and Envoy increases flying. For the most part, you guys are already shutdown, its just happening in an orderly fashion to prevent a mass exodus from your company. Also, word is the E175s are not coming to Envoy, its just something to keep your pilots from quitting too soon before all the flying and airplanes can be transferred over in an orderly fashion. It's more likely the E175's will come to PSA. PSA is already in discussions with Republic on leasing time on their sim at CVG.
But I'm not up as high as you are on the union food chain.
But I'm not up as high as you are on the union food chain.
05-22-2015 | 06:03 AM
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Industry contraction and consolidation. It forced them to invest here. Absent the jet commitment here, you'd continue to shrink to staff others who did get the jets they want flying. The 50 seat companies will become staffing fodder for the larger gauge companies. We told you it doesn't solve their problems and that they'd be back to fix things; and they're back.
05-22-2015 | 09:01 AM
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05-22-2015 | 09:46 AM
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"It's a great time to be an Envoy pilot."
Maybe Envoy ALPA should stamp that on their letterhead and communiques.
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